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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8349216, member: 85693"]There's quite a bit of information out there - a great place to find out more is from CTer [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] site - <a href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imitclaudius.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imitclaudius.html" rel="nofollow">http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imitclaudius.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I have two Claudius sestertii with Spes. One was gifted me by recently departed [USER=14873]@jamesicus[/USER], a true gentleman, greatly missed. He knew a lot about these and posted some of his coins and wisdom here: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudian-imitative-and-irregular-coinage.325967/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudian-imitative-and-irregular-coinage.325967/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudian-imitative-and-irregular-coinage.325967/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The other, uglier one, I got on eBay. They were both so light weight they were countermarked to turn them into dupondii. As you can see from these two specimens, style was all over the place, from fairly "official" to "barbaric." </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481185[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>Claudius Æ Dupondius</b></p><p><b>(c. 41-54 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Unofficial Mint (Sestertius)</b></p><p>TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG PM TR P IMP, laureate head r. / [SP]ES AVGVSTA,</p><p>pes stdg. left, holding flower & raising hem, [SC in ex.]</p><p>RIC 99; Cohen 85 (imitative). </p><p><b>Countermark:</b> see reverse.</p><p>(16.74 grams / 29 mm)</p><p>Coin Talk gift Aug. 2019 Free</p><p><b>Countermark:</b> <i>DV</i> and edge cut at 3 o'clock, obverse.</p><p>Pangerl Collection No. 58.</p><p>This countermark signified validation as a dupondius on lightweight or unofficial sestertii. </p><p>Note: gift from Coin Talk member jamesicus aka James Pickering. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481186[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Claudius Æ Dupondius</b></p><p><b>(c. 41-54 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Unofficial Mint (Sestertius)</b></p><p>[Missing] and garbled legend, laureate head right / [SPES AVGVSTA?], Spes standing left, holding flower & raising hem, [SC in exergue?]</p><p>RIC 99; Cohen 85 (imitative). </p><p><b>Countermark:</b> see reverse.</p><p>(10.66 grams / 29 mm)</p><p>eBay Aug. 2019 Lot @ $1.57</p><p><b>Countermark:</b> <i>DV</i> and edge cut at 3 o'clock, obverse.</p><p>Pangerl Collection No. 58. </p><p>This countermark signified validation as a dupondius on lightweight or unofficial</p><p>sestertii. </p><p> </p><p>It is a fascinating area to collect. A Google search with "claudius imitative coin" pulled up quite a few articles, FORVM, etc. </p><p> </p><p>Last fall I got what I think is an official Claudius sestertius with Spes. It is horribly worn, but the weight is not too far off given the wear. It could very well be another imitative type - but it is heavy enough it didn't get countermarked down to a dupondius. You can just make out the portrait, a few stray letters, and Spes's elbow - otherwise it is pretty much a smooth disc. Whatever it is, it got used a lot!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481197[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>Claudius Æ Sestertius</b></p><p><b>(c. 41-50 A.D. / 50-54 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Rome Mint</b></p><p>TI C[LAVDIVS] CAESAR AVG [P M TR P IMP (P P?)], laureate head right / [SPES AVGVSTA] [S C], Spes advancing left, holding flower in right hand and raising skirt with left</p><p>RIC 99 (no PP) or RIC 115 (PP).</p><p>(20.37 grams / 32 mm)</p><p>eBay Sep. 2021 Lot @ $2.20[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8349216, member: 85693"]There's quite a bit of information out there - a great place to find out more is from CTer [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] site - [URL]http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imitclaudius.html[/URL] I have two Claudius sestertii with Spes. One was gifted me by recently departed [USER=14873]@jamesicus[/USER], a true gentleman, greatly missed. He knew a lot about these and posted some of his coins and wisdom here: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudian-imitative-and-irregular-coinage.325967/[/URL] The other, uglier one, I got on eBay. They were both so light weight they were countermarked to turn them into dupondii. As you can see from these two specimens, style was all over the place, from fairly "official" to "barbaric." [ATTACH=full]1481185[/ATTACH] [B]Claudius Æ Dupondius (c. 41-54 A.D.) Unofficial Mint (Sestertius)[/B] TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG PM TR P IMP, laureate head r. / [SP]ES AVGVSTA, pes stdg. left, holding flower & raising hem, [SC in ex.] RIC 99; Cohen 85 (imitative). [B]Countermark:[/B] see reverse. (16.74 grams / 29 mm) Coin Talk gift Aug. 2019 Free [B]Countermark:[/B] [I]DV[/I] and edge cut at 3 o'clock, obverse. Pangerl Collection No. 58. This countermark signified validation as a dupondius on lightweight or unofficial sestertii. Note: gift from Coin Talk member jamesicus aka James Pickering. [ATTACH=full]1481186[/ATTACH] [B]Claudius Æ Dupondius (c. 41-54 A.D.) Unofficial Mint (Sestertius)[/B] [Missing] and garbled legend, laureate head right / [SPES AVGVSTA?], Spes standing left, holding flower & raising hem, [SC in exergue?] RIC 99; Cohen 85 (imitative). [B]Countermark:[/B] see reverse. (10.66 grams / 29 mm) eBay Aug. 2019 Lot @ $1.57 [B]Countermark:[/B] [I]DV[/I] and edge cut at 3 o'clock, obverse. Pangerl Collection No. 58. This countermark signified validation as a dupondius on lightweight or unofficial sestertii. It is a fascinating area to collect. A Google search with "claudius imitative coin" pulled up quite a few articles, FORVM, etc. Last fall I got what I think is an official Claudius sestertius with Spes. It is horribly worn, but the weight is not too far off given the wear. It could very well be another imitative type - but it is heavy enough it didn't get countermarked down to a dupondius. You can just make out the portrait, a few stray letters, and Spes's elbow - otherwise it is pretty much a smooth disc. Whatever it is, it got used a lot! [ATTACH=full]1481197[/ATTACH] [B]Claudius Æ Sestertius (c. 41-50 A.D. / 50-54 A.D.) Rome Mint[/B] TI C[LAVDIVS] CAESAR AVG [P M TR P IMP (P P?)], laureate head right / [SPES AVGVSTA] [S C], Spes advancing left, holding flower in right hand and raising skirt with left RIC 99 (no PP) or RIC 115 (PP). (20.37 grams / 32 mm) eBay Sep. 2021 Lot @ $2.20[/QUOTE]
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