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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 286781, member: 112&quot;]Very true Mike, and the examples that are like the coin you pictured are indeed to easy to recognize. However, the other coins you mentioned, that do not have cameo devices and that were struck with somewhat worn dies, are not easy to recognize at all - for anyone. And yet they are still SMS coins. And yes they were struck only once, but they were not struck at the same pressure as Proofs.</p><p><br /></p><p>There has been many an argument between the pros, both within the TPG&#039;s and without, as to whether or not a given a coin was an SMS issue. Several cases have been documented where PCGS has slabbed a coin as SMS an the owner then re-submitted the coin hoping for an upgrade. But when the coin was returned it arrived in a slab labeled MS. </p><p><br /></p><p>So what Conder said, and similar comments that I have made in the past, are quite true. In many cases, you can&#039;t tell.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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