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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7536397, member: 110504&quot;]Very cool, [USER=75482]@dltsrq[/USER]!&nbsp; Yes, you nailed it about lords and barons --as you tellingly imply, in England, it&#039;s a valid distinction.&nbsp; You could be a lord but not a baron, the latter title effectively defined by whether you were actually summoned to Parliament --in, irony alert, what&#039;s now&nbsp; called the House of Lords.</p><p>I wish I could get my hands on the local public library&#039;s copy of The Complete Peerage.&nbsp; --Pretty sure, for that matter, that an&nbsp; older edition is on Google Books.&nbsp; Entries in that routinely begin this or that many generations before the first formal summons to Parliament.</p><p>Massive thanks (...I&#039;m kind of invested in this, at this point) for finding the Wiki article.&nbsp; Your interpretation of the available info is effortlessly incisive.&nbsp; ...Sorry, I don&#039;t run into your kind of people very often!</p><p>...Just more broadly, this might be worth saying.&nbsp; With genealogy, in the initial stages, like we are here, you often effectively have to proceed from informed speculation.&nbsp; It&#039;s almost the amateur equivalent of a scientific hypothesis; then you go about trying to disprove it.&nbsp; (....)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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