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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7531906, member: 110504&quot;]As apt as Dave Evans&#039; and [USER=75482]@dltsrq[/USER]&#039;s observations are, I think your reply on the other forum, [USER=117018]@Henry112345[/USER], is no less so.&nbsp; The fact that Robert de Besing /Basing&#039;s caput didn&#039;t have a castle puts him securely in the lower echelons of the aristocracy.&nbsp; In England, the larger, heraldic and equestrian seals are much more typical of earls and other members of the upper aristocracy.&nbsp; Even the seals on The Barons&#039; Letter of 1301 cover a wide spectrum of size and elaborateness.&nbsp; --And these aren&#039;t &#039;privy seals,&#039; which were less formal and commensurately less impressive.</p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Barons%27Letter1301SealsSeriesA.jpg/1024px-Barons%27Letter1301SealsSeriesA.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Barons%27Letter1301SealsSeriesB.jpg/1920px-Barons%27Letter1301SealsSeriesB.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Also, the lettering style really does look pretty distinctly on the earlier-13th-c. side.&nbsp; Not the fully realized &#039;Lombardic&#039; Gothic you get from the second half of the century.&nbsp; That would make it early enough for seals not to have been in common use among the middle class or lower clergy.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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