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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7529313, member: 110504"]<b>Fantastic </b>seal, [USER=117018]@Henry112345[/USER]. The lettering style is just a <i>little </i>old-fashioned for later temp, Henry III, but only according to what was effectively state-of-the-art. [USER=97872]@Robert Ransom[/USER] nailed it about medieval orthographic variants; frequently, even in legal records, the same individual's name can be rendered more than one way. And the Anglo-Norman aristocratic polity was set up (from the ground up, by William I --and very intentionally) so that even at the level of titled earls, manors were scattered all over the place. William didn't want to be faced with a baronage that was as territorially concentrated, and correspondingly powerful, as what the Capetian kings in France had to deal with.</p><p>In other words, I agree with your assessment of the high probability that Robert St. John of Basin is your guy. Here's some more about him.</p><p><a href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp115-127" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp115-127" rel="nofollow">https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp115-127</a></p><p>(Edditing in place: ) And here's the entry from a generic looking but reliable genealogical website (the author routinely cites reliable secondary sources):</p><p><a href="https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00439389&tree=LEO" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00439389&tree=LEO" rel="nofollow">https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00439389&tree=LEO</a></p><p>To my earlier observations about the lettering style, this notes that Robert was born in 1199; the seal could easily be early 13th c., and his.</p><p>Her's a link to a thread I did on the nearest thing to this that I have.</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-couple-of-medieval-lead-seals.367923/#post-4918658" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-couple-of-medieval-lead-seals.367923/#post-4918658">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-couple-of-medieval-lead-seals.367923/#post-4918658</a></p><p>I heartily agree about how much cooler it is when you can connect this sort of thing to an individual. Along with heraldic harness pendants, this is effectively the nearest you can get, for England, to a feudal series per se.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7529313, member: 110504"][B]Fantastic [/B]seal, [USER=117018]@Henry112345[/USER]. The lettering style is just a [I]little [/I]old-fashioned for later temp, Henry III, but only according to what was effectively state-of-the-art. [USER=97872]@Robert Ransom[/USER] nailed it about medieval orthographic variants; frequently, even in legal records, the same individual's name can be rendered more than one way. And the Anglo-Norman aristocratic polity was set up (from the ground up, by William I --and very intentionally) so that even at the level of titled earls, manors were scattered all over the place. William didn't want to be faced with a baronage that was as territorially concentrated, and correspondingly powerful, as what the Capetian kings in France had to deal with. In other words, I agree with your assessment of the high probability that Robert St. John of Basin is your guy. Here's some more about him. [URL]https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp115-127[/URL] (Edditing in place: ) And here's the entry from a generic looking but reliable genealogical website (the author routinely cites reliable secondary sources): [URL]https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00439389&tree=LEO[/URL] To my earlier observations about the lettering style, this notes that Robert was born in 1199; the seal could easily be early 13th c., and his. Her's a link to a thread I did on the nearest thing to this that I have. [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-couple-of-medieval-lead-seals.367923/#post-4918658[/URL] I heartily agree about how much cooler it is when you can connect this sort of thing to an individual. Along with heraldic harness pendants, this is effectively the nearest you can get, for England, to a feudal series per se.[/QUOTE]
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