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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 5401574, member: 24314&quot;]Bob Evancho, posted: &quot;Your posted coin example is a good reason you don&#039;t buy the holder, you buy a coin based on eye appeal.&nbsp; The coin you posted is horribly impaired by harsh cleaning.&nbsp; I expanded the picture and note the cleaning lines on the neck and other areas.&nbsp; Is SEGS the only grading company that details proof coins and then an explanation of the issue?&nbsp; A knowledgeable or experienced collector would totally ignore the holder and purchase or not purchase that coin based on its eye appeal.&nbsp; They would also have it in the back of their mind that coin is an IMPAIRED Proof, not a circulated proof. Not details grading that coin or any other hair lined proof is a disservice to a collector, new or old. In my post on my 1937 Australian Crown Proof which got a SEGS Proof 63 DETAILS Environmental Damage (due to having been graded and authenticated by ANA in the early 1970&#039;s and placed in a PVC heat sealed flip) from PVC.&nbsp; Maybe one day the two top tier TPG&#039;s will give a numerical grade details on Proof and mint state coins rather than what we see here or a coin that says UNC details cleaned. Is a coin an MS-60 details or an MS-62 details or an MS??? what details?&nbsp; Thank you for bringing up this interesting topic.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>There may be a reason TPGS&#039;s (except SEGS ???) don&#039;t try to put a specific grade on an MS/PR coin.&nbsp; Let me give you an extreme example to make a point.&nbsp; What if I took a perfect SE graded MS-70 and it actually was a perfect coin under 20X.&nbsp; Then I cut that MS-70&nbsp; in half.&nbsp; What is its MS grade?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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