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<p>[QUOTE="C-B-D, post: 3076889, member: 43130"]Disagree. It is in fact, part of the coins design, because the die produced that effect, and the coin was then struck to reflect perfectly what the die looked like.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, as far as other aspects you mentioned, I am plainly biased. I grade like the TPG's grade. They take strike into account (such as full and weak) when grading. Makes sense. If you had to choose between two coins and one had a more complete strike than the other, then yeah, I would choose the better strike. So does PCGS, NGC, etc. Same goes for luster, (though I would argue that 99 coins out of 100 that have a different or weaker luster when compared to their counterpart, probably do because they've been messed with).</p><p>However, when it comes to die cracks, the TPG's don't count that against the coin, and neither do I. I get that you think that's wrong and I'll agree that you can clearly argue it is inconsistent, but in my mind it makes sense. Look at the Walking Liberty design. I would say that without exception, every single year those were minted there was a strike weakness of Liberty's hand in the center of the obverse. And I would also say without exception that the possibility for an MS70 still exists because they were "as struck". As far as I know there is no MS70 Walking Liberty half-dollar, but to me, the possibility still exists because that's the way they were struck. If there was a giant die crack on one of those coins but the luster was there and it was as struck and there were few hits and no circulation, then I would still great it on a 70 scale just like the tpg's do. So I separate out the die states of a series and grade based in the state of the die. Blows the mind, I know, but that's the way we do it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="C-B-D, post: 3076889, member: 43130"]Disagree. It is in fact, part of the coins design, because the die produced that effect, and the coin was then struck to reflect perfectly what the die looked like. Now, as far as other aspects you mentioned, I am plainly biased. I grade like the TPG's grade. They take strike into account (such as full and weak) when grading. Makes sense. If you had to choose between two coins and one had a more complete strike than the other, then yeah, I would choose the better strike. So does PCGS, NGC, etc. Same goes for luster, (though I would argue that 99 coins out of 100 that have a different or weaker luster when compared to their counterpart, probably do because they've been messed with). However, when it comes to die cracks, the TPG's don't count that against the coin, and neither do I. I get that you think that's wrong and I'll agree that you can clearly argue it is inconsistent, but in my mind it makes sense. Look at the Walking Liberty design. I would say that without exception, every single year those were minted there was a strike weakness of Liberty's hand in the center of the obverse. And I would also say without exception that the possibility for an MS70 still exists because they were "as struck". As far as I know there is no MS70 Walking Liberty half-dollar, but to me, the possibility still exists because that's the way they were struck. If there was a giant die crack on one of those coins but the luster was there and it was as struck and there were few hits and no circulation, then I would still great it on a 70 scale just like the tpg's do. So I separate out the die states of a series and grade based in the state of the die. Blows the mind, I know, but that's the way we do it.[/QUOTE]
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