Question about Daniel Carr offerings

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by davidh, Dec 8, 2016.

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  1. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    How many coins have you looked at? I have mine in hand and can tell you that it is easy to see that it is an overstrike. The people who are arguing that it is easy to be fooled by these, are the people who have never seen one.
     
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  3. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member


    Fixed...;)
     
  4. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    I try not to fly in the face of public opinion lol.
     
  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    He is not reproducing anything. He is making the original design better, enhancing the coin is you will with the same exact design then adding a novelty fantasy date. Pretty simple stuff even though some like to make it more complex with hyperbole... Once you get your Secret Santa gift you can compare it to the original ;)

    I'm betting all your assumptions of not being able to tell the difference is based on photos and not an in hand, tactile, side by side comparison
     
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  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I've seen about a half dozen
     
  7. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    When initially examining Carrs Morgan, several immediate things are very noticeable.
    The coin has a different strike to a regular Morgan, the surface is more matte and free from bag marks and imperfections. The luster is also different, it is more of a cross between a burnished ASE and a Morgan.
     
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  8. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    So of the half dozens you have seen, you can not tell the difference between Carrs overstrikes and a regular Morgan? That is what you are saying? (Apart from the obvious date).
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Why don't we quit it on the trolling and libel allegations? I think we can differentiate when one is stating fact from when one is inferring from fact, i.e., stating opinion, and I'll remind us this thread was started on a question soliciting opinions on Dan's operations.
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

  11. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    Hard to say, the pictures are not clear enough when I enlarge.
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    At first and really second glance, the DC OS looks exactly the same only "too good to be true."
     
  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I can see it. The host coin was turned about 5° to the left relative to the dies. You're right about being not clear enough when enlarged but crystal clear pics will show the ghosting at about a 5° rotation to the left on that one
     
  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    To good to be true is a noticeable difference on it's own as well though
     
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  15. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    Each has his own opinion, I have no problem with an opinion. However when you come on here and tell others that they should be in jail, the governement should shut down their operation, that they are a counterfeiter (criminal), then you are engaging in slander.
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    It's not? Perhaps you could explain exactly how it's not a copy of the original design.

    The obvious fact is that they may not be copies of issued dates, but are nothing more than copies of the original designs.
     
  17. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    ;)
     
  18. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    The die may be an approximate copy of a Morgan, however even then it is Carrs interpretation of a perfect Morgan I believe. Once the overstrike is struck the design is melded with the original strike. It creates an overstrike combining the two strikes, which is obvious when you look through a loupe.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Slander is when it's spoken, libel is when it's written. At any rate, those references are opinion, they're not fact. Even calling him a "counterfeiter (criminal)" is opinion on the ultimate issue whether he's in fact a "counterfeiter (criminal)."
     
  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    So do I have to print my $100 notes with fantasy dates over $100 notes? I'd rather print them over $1 notes to increase my margin on my cost of goods sold.
     
  21. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Yes you do unless you want the SS knocking at your door
     
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