Question about Daniel Carr offerings

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by davidh, Dec 8, 2016.

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I don't see how anything he said can be remotely considered libelous. What exactly are you referring to? Just curious.
     
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Please give us your legal opinion on the matter.
     
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  4. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    This is incorrect, all the overstrikes show elements of the original coin. On mine it is most obvious on the denticles. A blank would have no such underlying design. This is a fact, yet you state it is indistinguishable.
     

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  5. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    Show me the case which is exactly the same as Carrs situation? While you are good at picking pieces of cases which fit your opinion, you have none.
     
  6. Andy Herkimer

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  7. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    'No, it applies to all reproductions, copies, and counterfeits.'

    These are overstrikes, not reproduction, copies or counterfeits.
     
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  8. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    And there you have it
     
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  9. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    Anecdotal fallacy.
     
  10. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    Sophistry is the correct word I believe.
     
  11. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    The process does not destroy the host coin, the host coin is still visible to some variable extent.
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    How is it not a reproduction, when he copies the original design?
     
  13. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    I think it is very unreasonable that people will be fooled by these piece and harmed in the future. A cursory glance with a 5x loupe is enough to show that the coin is an overstrike. How many of Carrs pieces have you looked at?
     
  14. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    His pieces are rare items, again how many pieces have you looked at? You conflate with HSN, no comparison.
     
  15. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    First you say the host coin is obliterated, now you state that it is a minor alteration of the date?
     
  16. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    You miss out the main point, the dollar value which the NORFED pieces carry.
     
  17. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    He is stating his opinion that the restrikes are illegal, that DC is committing fraud and is a counterfeiter. Rather than continue to slander him on here, if he feels so strongly, he should open a case.
     
  18. Andy Herkimer

    Andy Herkimer Active Member

    It is not a complete copy of the original design, the date is also not copied.
     
  19. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    I can understand that, but are you implying that using your dies and a fresh planchet would be less than legal? You do strike gold coins that way. I'm not being argumentative, I'm just wondering the reason for using real coins as blanks. I'm assuming that it's because that's a relatively cheap way of obtaining the material to stamp. Is that it?
     
  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    DC's design is a close enough copy that I can't tell the differences. And the date was copied for the 1964-D Peace Dollar, and possibly the 1964 Morgan. Smells like a reproduction to me.
     
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