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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1279119, member: 26302"]Well considering I have bought $1000 worth of coins for $100, and $50 worth of coins for $150, which is the market? I bet you could put together a coin that has sold, in the same condition, for $5 one day and $100 the next, (I have literally seen this with roman coins). Which price is the "market"? This is why auction results, and auction, are troublesome to determine market levels from. Ebay is just accentuated since most sellers lie about the grades, making comparisons almost impossible since I believe you have to have a coin in hand to truly grade it. Photos can too easily be manipulated or distorted. If you are not positive the coins are the same grade, any values are meaningless.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your example of a common coin you cannot find for sale does not mean its worth a lot. I looked for a coin in every major catalog and every major show for two years once and finally found it for sale for $80. It was not a "rare" coin, just not for sale. </p><p><br /></p><p>Like I said, Krause and dealers have problems with using them too. Mainly both list common issues too high, and Krause lists rare coins too low. But, given all of the "noise", I think its the best compromise to use, but always keeping in mind its simply an estimate. I bet you some guy with a few rolls of those 1973 centavos would love to believe they are worth $13 a piece, but I bet you if he tried to sell more than 1 at a time the price would crash to $1. There is an old saying, that Ebay is like a lake miles wide and a foot deep.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: As an example a seller was selling a coin book on Ebay once. It was new and listed at $40. He sold them individually at first, getting above $20 the first few times. Then they started going down each auction down to $4. Then he posted x6 auctions, and these went for $20 initially, then down to $10 or less. They were great books, and I bought about 10 auctions x6, and put them away. Today that book on Ebay goes for about $10 again because he stopped selling them there. Ebay is not good with volumes of specific merchandise, its good for different types of merchandise.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1279119, member: 26302"]Well considering I have bought $1000 worth of coins for $100, and $50 worth of coins for $150, which is the market? I bet you could put together a coin that has sold, in the same condition, for $5 one day and $100 the next, (I have literally seen this with roman coins). Which price is the "market"? This is why auction results, and auction, are troublesome to determine market levels from. Ebay is just accentuated since most sellers lie about the grades, making comparisons almost impossible since I believe you have to have a coin in hand to truly grade it. Photos can too easily be manipulated or distorted. If you are not positive the coins are the same grade, any values are meaningless. Your example of a common coin you cannot find for sale does not mean its worth a lot. I looked for a coin in every major catalog and every major show for two years once and finally found it for sale for $80. It was not a "rare" coin, just not for sale. Like I said, Krause and dealers have problems with using them too. Mainly both list common issues too high, and Krause lists rare coins too low. But, given all of the "noise", I think its the best compromise to use, but always keeping in mind its simply an estimate. I bet you some guy with a few rolls of those 1973 centavos would love to believe they are worth $13 a piece, but I bet you if he tried to sell more than 1 at a time the price would crash to $1. There is an old saying, that Ebay is like a lake miles wide and a foot deep. Edit: As an example a seller was selling a coin book on Ebay once. It was new and listed at $40. He sold them individually at first, getting above $20 the first few times. Then they started going down each auction down to $4. Then he posted x6 auctions, and these went for $20 initially, then down to $10 or less. They were great books, and I bought about 10 auctions x6, and put them away. Today that book on Ebay goes for about $10 again because he stopped selling them there. Ebay is not good with volumes of specific merchandise, its good for different types of merchandise.[/QUOTE]
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