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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 5173194, member: 110350"]Thank you so much! So it appears that according to Hoover, the distinction between HGC Nos. 1457 and 1458 -- and, in turn, the distinction between coins assigned to Jenkins Group A (Jenkins Nos. 1-28 [varying reverse symbols], 188-170 BCE) and those assigned to Jenkins Group B (Jenkins Nos. 29-38 [varying reverse symbols], 170-150 BCE) -- depends entirely on which magistrate's name is on the coin, since both groups include the Isis headdress among their symbols.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hoover puts APTEMΩΝ in the first, earlier Jenkins group (A). Which would mean that the dealer's dating of my coin was correct. However, a number of the dealers' descriptions I saw of the APTEMΩΝ coins with the Isis headdress to the left as a symbol gave those coins the number Jenkins 33, putting them in the second, later group (B) and ascribing them to HGC 1458.</p><p><br /></p><p>See this Numismatik Naumann lot description from 2017 (Auction 60, Lot 219):</p><p><br /></p><p>"CARIA. Rhodes. Drachm (Circa 170-150 BC). Artemon, magistrate. Obv: Radiate head of Helios right. Rev: APTEMΩN / P - O. Rose with bud to right. Control: Isis crown to left. Jenkins Group B, 33; HGC 6, 1458. Condition: Very fine. Weight: 2.48 g. Diameter: 15 mm."</p><p><br /></p><p>But other dealers follow Hoover in assigning such coins to Jenkins 20, putting them in Group A, and ascribing them to HGC 1457 accordingly.</p><p><br /></p><p>I suppose the only way of knowing which is correct would be to look at Jenkins, because somebody is reading Jenkins incorrectly. However, I tend to think that Hoover is less likely to have made that mistake. So until proven otherwise, I'm going to change my description to Jenkins Group A, No. 20, with the earlier dates, and categorize the coin as HGC 1457.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 5173194, member: 110350"]Thank you so much! So it appears that according to Hoover, the distinction between HGC Nos. 1457 and 1458 -- and, in turn, the distinction between coins assigned to Jenkins Group A (Jenkins Nos. 1-28 [varying reverse symbols], 188-170 BCE) and those assigned to Jenkins Group B (Jenkins Nos. 29-38 [varying reverse symbols], 170-150 BCE) -- depends entirely on which magistrate's name is on the coin, since both groups include the Isis headdress among their symbols. Hoover puts APTEMΩΝ in the first, earlier Jenkins group (A). Which would mean that the dealer's dating of my coin was correct. However, a number of the dealers' descriptions I saw of the APTEMΩΝ coins with the Isis headdress to the left as a symbol gave those coins the number Jenkins 33, putting them in the second, later group (B) and ascribing them to HGC 1458. See this Numismatik Naumann lot description from 2017 (Auction 60, Lot 219): "CARIA. Rhodes. Drachm (Circa 170-150 BC). Artemon, magistrate. Obv: Radiate head of Helios right. Rev: APTEMΩN / P - O. Rose with bud to right. Control: Isis crown to left. Jenkins Group B, 33; HGC 6, 1458. Condition: Very fine. Weight: 2.48 g. Diameter: 15 mm." But other dealers follow Hoover in assigning such coins to Jenkins 20, putting them in Group A, and ascribing them to HGC 1457 accordingly. I suppose the only way of knowing which is correct would be to look at Jenkins, because somebody is reading Jenkins incorrectly. However, I tend to think that Hoover is less likely to have made that mistake. So until proven otherwise, I'm going to change my description to Jenkins Group A, No. 20, with the earlier dates, and categorize the coin as HGC 1457.[/QUOTE]
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