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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3015889, member: 112"]No, you weren't. Not in any way shape or form. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I would say you misinterpreted them. If any member directly calls any other member names, that's always edited and when warranted there are consequences for the offender. But to say something like what was said in this case - that's a horse of a different color - because they are not directly calling you names. A fine line perhaps but a line that needs to be there.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nobody ever said that, least of all me. What I said people should do is to try and understand why such a thing would be said. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah, you can, but it's definitely something I would recommend.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree 100%. Now let me make a point about that. I believe most of the problem here is the use of the word stupid, had that word not been used, and other words or phrases used instead, I doubt there would have been much fuss. Could be wrong of course.</p><p><br /></p><p>That said, let's talk about stupid for a minute. An this is not directed at you Larry but at everybody. How about the word idiot ? Does it have less of a negative connotation than stupid ? I'd have to say no. As a matter of fact both stupid and idiot are used on this forum, and everywhere else, on a pretty regular basis by just about everybody. Including myself. We, and I do mean all of us, have even gone so far as to coin a new word - bidiots - and it used in our conversations very often ! And we use other words, including stupid, like fools, or foolish, or ridiculous, or unbelievable, and they all mean pretty much the same thing. And absolutely nobody cares when these words are used - and I do mean nobody - because they all use them themselves. </p><p><br /></p><p>The thing that makes the difference, bidiots for example is used to describe what the ignorant, uneducated, inexperienced, choose your word including stupid, people on ebay or in other auction venues do. And nobody cares because it is directed at a class or group of people as opposed to a single individual, most of the time anyway. But there are times when any and all of those words are used and directed at a specific individual. And again nobody cares. Why ? Because they can say it's not being directed at them, or anybody they know. It is directed at some unknown individual - so it doesn't matter and nobody takes offense.</p><p><br /></p><p>But if someone uses any of those words and directs them you personally, and you personally covers everybody here not just 1 specific person, and you will be offended, insulted, injured even. </p><p><br /></p><p>The point I'm trying to get across here is it's OK when it's done to somebody else unknown, even when you yourself do it to somebody else unknown, but it's never OK when it's done to you. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'll say one other thing and then I'm gonna drop it. You'd be hard pressed to find any derogatory word or name that I personally have not been directly called here on this forum more times than you can count. And in pretty much every other forum there is. And yet I have not taken offense a single time. Nor has anything ever been done about it by a moderator - not ever ! Why not ? It's pretty simple, for me, - I'm not 6 years old and on the playground anymore.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3015889, member: 112"]No, you weren't. Not in any way shape or form. I would say you misinterpreted them. If any member directly calls any other member names, that's always edited and when warranted there are consequences for the offender. But to say something like what was said in this case - that's a horse of a different color - because they are not directly calling you names. A fine line perhaps but a line that needs to be there. Nobody ever said that, least of all me. What I said people should do is to try and understand why such a thing would be said. Yeah, you can, but it's definitely something I would recommend. I agree 100%. Now let me make a point about that. I believe most of the problem here is the use of the word stupid, had that word not been used, and other words or phrases used instead, I doubt there would have been much fuss. Could be wrong of course. That said, let's talk about stupid for a minute. An this is not directed at you Larry but at everybody. How about the word idiot ? Does it have less of a negative connotation than stupid ? I'd have to say no. As a matter of fact both stupid and idiot are used on this forum, and everywhere else, on a pretty regular basis by just about everybody. Including myself. We, and I do mean all of us, have even gone so far as to coin a new word - bidiots - and it used in our conversations very often ! And we use other words, including stupid, like fools, or foolish, or ridiculous, or unbelievable, and they all mean pretty much the same thing. And absolutely nobody cares when these words are used - and I do mean nobody - because they all use them themselves. The thing that makes the difference, bidiots for example is used to describe what the ignorant, uneducated, inexperienced, choose your word including stupid, people on ebay or in other auction venues do. And nobody cares because it is directed at a class or group of people as opposed to a single individual, most of the time anyway. But there are times when any and all of those words are used and directed at a specific individual. And again nobody cares. Why ? Because they can say it's not being directed at them, or anybody they know. It is directed at some unknown individual - so it doesn't matter and nobody takes offense. But if someone uses any of those words and directs them you personally, and you personally covers everybody here not just 1 specific person, and you will be offended, insulted, injured even. The point I'm trying to get across here is it's OK when it's done to somebody else unknown, even when you yourself do it to somebody else unknown, but it's never OK when it's done to you. I'll say one other thing and then I'm gonna drop it. You'd be hard pressed to find any derogatory word or name that I personally have not been directly called here on this forum more times than you can count. And in pretty much every other forum there is. And yet I have not taken offense a single time. Nor has anything ever been done about it by a moderator - not ever ! Why not ? It's pretty simple, for me, - I'm not 6 years old and on the playground anymore.[/QUOTE]
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