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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 3407485, member: 66&quot;]I have one, one of the few silver pieces that came up from the first recovery expedition, now I want on of the dimes.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will pay more for a pedigree, if I feel it is from an important collection.&nbsp; It is worth it to me for the connection to the history of the previous collectors and their collections.&nbsp; I have a few pieces that can be traced back to the turn of the 20th century and they have been in&nbsp; several major and famous collections, and now they are in mine.&nbsp; I have a piece from the Dan Holmes collection.&nbsp; Dan assembled the most complete set ever of early US large cents.&nbsp; ALL of the varieties except one which is unique and premanently impounded in the ANS collection.&nbsp; The last piece he acquired that allowed him to reach that milestone was an 1803 S-158.&nbsp; When his set was sold I bid that coin to five times catalog.....and lost.&nbsp; About two years later it came back on the market and I got it, for six times catalog.&nbsp; To me that is a piece of EAC history.&nbsp; I have several Conder tokens from major collections going back well over a hundred and forty years.&nbsp; But three pieces I am very proud of.&nbsp; On of the major manufacturers of these tokens was Matthew Boulton and James Watt.&nbsp; They each had a collection of the tokens they produced.&nbsp; Those tokens stayed in the Boulton and Watt collections until the families sold them in the late 1990&#039;s.&nbsp; I have two pieces from Bouton&#039;s collection and one from Watt&#039;s.&nbsp; In 230 years they have been in two collections, the manufacturer&#039;s and mine.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for how to get pedigree coins cheaper, you can go for some of the lessor pedigrees, or some of the more common coins from the major pedigrees.&nbsp; And in general don&#039;t buy them directly from the sale of the major collection.&nbsp; A great many from a major pedigreed collection sell much cheaper later after the hype of the sale is over.&nbsp; There are many Eric Newman coins that can be purchased now for less, sometimes significantly less, that what they sold for in his sales.&nbsp; Same thing goes for Eliasberg.&nbsp; I have one Eliasberg coin.&nbsp; he is best know for his US collection, but he also had a collection of foreign gold coins.&nbsp; I have one of those.&nbsp; And it also comes with a rare NGC photocertificate.&nbsp; His foreign gold was not slabbed.&nbsp; Instead NGC produced photocertifcates of them.&nbsp; These were the only photocertificates they had ever done.&nbsp; There were only about 770 coins in the collection, and the certificate did NOT carry the NGC guarantee.&nbsp; BUT after the sale if you returned the coin and the certificate to NGC they would slab the coin and then it would be covered by the guarantee.&nbsp; the photography on the certificates was not very good and most of them found their way back to NGC for slabbing.&nbsp; I doubt if more than 100 still exist.</p><p><br /></p><p>If all you care about is the value of the coin then no you aren&#039;t going to care about a pedigree.&nbsp; But if the stories and history behind certain pieces is of interest, pedigree does have a value.&nbsp; At least I think so.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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