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<p>[QUOTE="Romanvs.Coinicvs, post: 7940813, member: 124974"]Hello,</p><p><br /></p><p>I do take your point/advice, but I think you have me confused with another user (JJ Walker, perhaps), as I haven’t provided any photos/price details of the coin I reference in my original query.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess I should add a bit more detail given the recent replies to the thread.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, it was not at all obvious from the photos that the coin had been altered. Not at all. The colors were proper (unlike the colors on the coins in the old threads of the Vcoins dealers who added coloring/glue to their coins).</p><p><br /></p><p>It was not until I received and held/examined the coin under magnification that I became suspicious.</p><p><br /></p><p>An acetone dip of 15 seconds removed the makeup used to cover the high spots of the coin. My wife confirmed the oily powder was a type of foundation makeup that women use (I’m taking her word for this). <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I do understand the dealer may have purchased the coin like this. BUT… the dealer runs a large coin foundation overseas (Middle East). I expect him to have much more experience with coins than I do. If I can spot this fake patina, then why did HE not spot it? Does this not make him more responsible than me?</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I altered the coin… I removed a fake powder from the surface used to obscure the fact that the coin had been more harshly cleaned. The original remaining patina is perfectly intact. This is how the coin would have looked “pre-powdering.” So, I do not feel like I really altered the coin. I feel like I removed a fake powder that someone applied and which the very experienced dealer should have recognized prior to selling the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope this is more clear.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I said up thread, I plan to keep the coin because it seems to be a more scarce type. The rest of the coins are very nice, so I am further ahead.</p><p><br /></p><p>I posed this question because I can see (based on similar/older threads here) that this is a concern for collectors of ancient coins, and I want to understand what I should/should not do to confirm my suspicions about suspect coins and how to approach a dealer in that event.</p><p><br /></p><p>No harm intended. Not trolling.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks to the responders for the advice/opinions.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Romanvs.Coinicvs, post: 7940813, member: 124974"]Hello, I do take your point/advice, but I think you have me confused with another user (JJ Walker, perhaps), as I haven’t provided any photos/price details of the coin I reference in my original query. I guess I should add a bit more detail given the recent replies to the thread. First, it was not at all obvious from the photos that the coin had been altered. Not at all. The colors were proper (unlike the colors on the coins in the old threads of the Vcoins dealers who added coloring/glue to their coins). It was not until I received and held/examined the coin under magnification that I became suspicious. An acetone dip of 15 seconds removed the makeup used to cover the high spots of the coin. My wife confirmed the oily powder was a type of foundation makeup that women use (I’m taking her word for this). :) I do understand the dealer may have purchased the coin like this. BUT… the dealer runs a large coin foundation overseas (Middle East). I expect him to have much more experience with coins than I do. If I can spot this fake patina, then why did HE not spot it? Does this not make him more responsible than me? Yes, I altered the coin… I removed a fake powder from the surface used to obscure the fact that the coin had been more harshly cleaned. The original remaining patina is perfectly intact. This is how the coin would have looked “pre-powdering.” So, I do not feel like I really altered the coin. I feel like I removed a fake powder that someone applied and which the very experienced dealer should have recognized prior to selling the coin. I hope this is more clear. As I said up thread, I plan to keep the coin because it seems to be a more scarce type. The rest of the coins are very nice, so I am further ahead. I posed this question because I can see (based on similar/older threads here) that this is a concern for collectors of ancient coins, and I want to understand what I should/should not do to confirm my suspicions about suspect coins and how to approach a dealer in that event. No harm intended. Not trolling. Thanks to the responders for the advice/opinions.[/QUOTE]
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