Ptolemy coins 5 and 6 ID help please

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  1. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    coin 5
    32mm 27.6g
    ptolemaic bronzes 016.JPG ptolemaic bronzes 017.JPG
    coin 6
    29mm 24.4g
    ptolemaic bronzes 014.JPG ptolemaic bronzes 015.JPG
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  3. YOC

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    coin 5
    Ptolemy V-VI - Alexandria - Lorber & Faucher (2010) Series 6C
    This denomination series consists of 5 coins, the largest being once again an ordinary style of Zeus Ammon with double-eagle reverse, and again (as in Series 6A and 6B, above) alternating with Isis and other designs for smaller denominations. The nomenclature and arrangement here follows the work of Faucher and Lorber's AJN 2010 paper: "Bronze Coinage of Ptolemaic Egypt in the Second Century BC", AJN, 2010, pp 35-84. With this series we begin to see the weight reduction of the largest denomination from ca. 39gm to 30gm.
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    YOC Well-Known Member

    I txhink there are faint traces of an obve\rse inscription which would make this ....??
    Ptolemy VI - Alexandria - Lorber & Faucher (2010) Series 7A - with Kleopatra II (ca 160-145BC)
    This denomination series consists of three coins with the unusual obverse inscription of Kleopatra I (wife of Ptolemy V and mother of Ptolemy VI) ca. 180-176 BC or Kleopatra II, co-ruler with her brother Ptolemy VI, from 160-145BC. We have only three sizes with leg monogram or left-field monogram of PI ALPHA. Having the obverse KLEOPATRAS incription may well indicate that she was the regent or co-ruler with the very young Ptolemy VI during the earliest part of his reign (ca. 180 - 176BC). The newer chronology by Lorber and Faucher leans toward the 160-145BC period. The next series (see just below) appears to be largely congruent to these coins but with two more denominations and lacking the KLEOPATRAS inscription. The largest denomination here also has a cornucopia at the left of the two eagles, typical of Alexandria issues, telling us that the PI-A monogram is not interpreted as a mintmark though it does appear to the left of the eagle on the two smallest issues. Compare these coins with the series shown immediately below.
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