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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 7395362, member: 84744"]That Isis coin is a real beauty - lovely photograph too! Here's mine with a ΠΑ monogram (15.70g), which I've attributed to series 7b under (probably) Ptolemy VI's sole reign, 163-145 BCE:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1286700[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Actually, I don't think your attribution is correct, though I hasten to add that I'm no expert on these! However if I'm interpreting the info on the <a href="http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html" rel="nofollow">Wolf site</a> correctly, the weight of yours puts it quite firmly in series 7c (Sv1235), after my 7b and so roughly during the reign of Ptolemy VIII (c. 145-116). He notes that 6e probably isn't a genuine series, and even if it is, lighter coins like yours are best put in 7c.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think the most relevant chart is this one from the Faucher & Lorber paper you cited:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1286704[/ATTACH]</p><p>There was a massive monetary reform c. 205 in which all the bronze was demonetized and reissued with new denominations. This chart represents, in their opinion, the most likely hypothesis for how the new system of reckoning in terms of "new drachms" fits with the old system, where 60 new drachms = 1 old drachm. That would make both of our coins 60 new drachms = 1 old drachm. Our coins, at around 15g, are half the weight of the series 6a version of this denomination due to a further reform instituted in series 7. Interestingly our coins should both have a high admixture of lead in them (mine could be as high as 30% lead!) which made the reissued bronze go even further.</p><p><br /></p><p>The weight on [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER]'s Isis coin makes it harder to attribute. It might be a 6e... if the series exists. Or it might also be a 7c.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER]'s Cleopatra VII coin has the denomination in terms of "new drachmae" marked directly on the coin, M for 40 drachmae, just visible in the right field. My coin from the same series is marked Π for 80 drachmae, also in the right field:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1286706[/ATTACH]</p><p>RC and I have a competition going for the ugliest Cleo VII coin. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 7395362, member: 84744"]That Isis coin is a real beauty - lovely photograph too! Here's mine with a ΠΑ monogram (15.70g), which I've attributed to series 7b under (probably) Ptolemy VI's sole reign, 163-145 BCE: [ATTACH=full]1286700[/ATTACH] Actually, I don't think your attribution is correct, though I hasten to add that I'm no expert on these! However if I'm interpreting the info on the [URL='http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html']Wolf site[/URL] correctly, the weight of yours puts it quite firmly in series 7c (Sv1235), after my 7b and so roughly during the reign of Ptolemy VIII (c. 145-116). He notes that 6e probably isn't a genuine series, and even if it is, lighter coins like yours are best put in 7c. I think the most relevant chart is this one from the Faucher & Lorber paper you cited: [ATTACH=full]1286704[/ATTACH] There was a massive monetary reform c. 205 in which all the bronze was demonetized and reissued with new denominations. This chart represents, in their opinion, the most likely hypothesis for how the new system of reckoning in terms of "new drachms" fits with the old system, where 60 new drachms = 1 old drachm. That would make both of our coins 60 new drachms = 1 old drachm. Our coins, at around 15g, are half the weight of the series 6a version of this denomination due to a further reform instituted in series 7. Interestingly our coins should both have a high admixture of lead in them (mine could be as high as 30% lead!) which made the reissued bronze go even further. The weight on [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER]'s Isis coin makes it harder to attribute. It might be a 6e... if the series exists. Or it might also be a 7c. [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER]'s Cleopatra VII coin has the denomination in terms of "new drachmae" marked directly on the coin, M for 40 drachmae, just visible in the right field. My coin from the same series is marked Π for 80 drachmae, also in the right field: [ATTACH=full]1286706[/ATTACH] RC and I have a competition going for the ugliest Cleo VII coin. :D[/QUOTE]
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