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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3705960, member: 96900"]He has sold more fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are two examples from modern dies</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6518.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6518.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6518.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6517.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6517.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6517.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.edgarlowen.com/greek-coins-greece-sales.shtml" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.edgarlowen.com/greek-coins-greece-sales.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.edgarlowen.com/greek-coins-greece-sales.shtml</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]993482[/ATTACH]</p><p>6518. THRACE, MARONEIA. Circa 189-145 BC. AR Tetradrachm (13.39 gm). Wreathed head of young Dionysos right. Reverse DIONUSOU SWTHROS MAPWNITWN, nude Dionysos standing half-left, holding grapes narthex stalks and cloak; monogram to left and right. Cf. Sch�nert-Geiss 995 (unlisted dies). Good VF, light porosity and cleaning marks. Attractive. Ex. CNG.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why fake?</p><p><br /></p><p>Wrong style and legend error, from mordern hand cutted dies.</p><p>legend error "Whereas SOTHPOS is genitive case, DIONYSOS is nominative, but should be genitive case too which is D IONYSOY (congruentia!)" Modern dies. die match to fake which was condemed by Ilya Prokopov as "struck Slavey fake coin. See: 1997, p.11, no. 20. " <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-4474" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-4474" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-4474</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=YUrUwrDnHEY=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=YUrUwrDnHEY=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=YUrUwrDnHEY=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=Whz7s7y4OLA=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=Whz7s7y4OLA=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=Whz7s7y4OLA=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=voKUIYdNyf4=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=voKUIYdNyf4=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=voKUIYdNyf4=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>To fake Lysimachos</p><p><br /></p><p>6517. THRACIAN KINGS, LYSIMACHOS, 285-281 BC. AR Drachm. EF.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]993483[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Fake from modern hand cutted dies.</p><p>Obverse die match to</p><p>IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 20 No.1 1995 Page 13 Fig 2</p><p>[ATTACH=full]993484[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=TKOheJlAnYo=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=TKOheJlAnYo=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=TKOheJlAnYo=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Same obverse die withdrawn as fake</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1399201" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1399201" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1399201</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=zYzfbnAspkQ=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=zYzfbnAspkQ=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=zYzfbnAspkQ=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And some more</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=x5flQFTg97s=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=x5flQFTg97s=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=x5flQFTg97s=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=6O8r55XcWYA=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=6O8r55XcWYA=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=6O8r55XcWYA=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>and so on, they appear from time to time at auctions and they will be generally withdrawn, if noticed or if they are notified.</p><p><br /></p><p>Same artist same reverse die as BOCS Vol 20 No.1 1995 Page 13 Fig 2 but different obverse die</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=uWjPwGRWTTE=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=uWjPwGRWTTE=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=uWjPwGRWTTE=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Several modern obverse and reverse dies do exist any fakes of most likely all different possible die combinations.</p><p><br /></p><p>PS: We all do mistakes but how we will react when the mistakes will be noticed will show if a dealer is realiable and if he or she has a good character. I hope someone here is so kind to notify him[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3705960, member: 96900"]He has sold more fakes. Here are two examples from modern dies [URL]http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6518.jpg[/URL] [URL]http://www.edgarlowen.com/a53/b6517.jpg[/URL] [URL]http://www.edgarlowen.com/greek-coins-greece-sales.shtml[/URL] [ATTACH=full]993482[/ATTACH] 6518. THRACE, MARONEIA. Circa 189-145 BC. AR Tetradrachm (13.39 gm). Wreathed head of young Dionysos right. Reverse DIONUSOU SWTHROS MAPWNITWN, nude Dionysos standing half-left, holding grapes narthex stalks and cloak; monogram to left and right. Cf. Sch�nert-Geiss 995 (unlisted dies). Good VF, light porosity and cleaning marks. Attractive. Ex. CNG. Why fake? Wrong style and legend error, from mordern hand cutted dies. legend error "Whereas SOTHPOS is genitive case, DIONYSOS is nominative, but should be genitive case too which is D IONYSOY (congruentia!)" Modern dies. die match to fake which was condemed by Ilya Prokopov as "struck Slavey fake coin. See: 1997, p.11, no. 20. " [URL]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-4474[/URL] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=YUrUwrDnHEY=[/URL] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=Whz7s7y4OLA=[/URL] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=voKUIYdNyf4=[/URL] To fake Lysimachos 6517. THRACIAN KINGS, LYSIMACHOS, 285-281 BC. AR Drachm. EF. [ATTACH=full]993483[/ATTACH] Fake from modern hand cutted dies. Obverse die match to IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 20 No.1 1995 Page 13 Fig 2 [ATTACH=full]993484[/ATTACH] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=TKOheJlAnYo=[/URL] Same obverse die withdrawn as fake [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1399201[/URL] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=zYzfbnAspkQ=[/URL] And some more [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=x5flQFTg97s=[/URL] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=6O8r55XcWYA=[/URL] and so on, they appear from time to time at auctions and they will be generally withdrawn, if noticed or if they are notified. Same artist same reverse die as BOCS Vol 20 No.1 1995 Page 13 Fig 2 but different obverse die [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=uWjPwGRWTTE=[/URL] Several modern obverse and reverse dies do exist any fakes of most likely all different possible die combinations. PS: We all do mistakes but how we will react when the mistakes will be noticed will show if a dealer is realiable and if he or she has a good character. I hope someone here is so kind to notify him[/QUOTE]
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