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<p>[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 5354345, member: 90666"]There are a host of trade secrets in finding provenances, some based on the coin itself, some on where to look and how to prioritise, and some on how to look (training your eyes), and I intend to share none of them here, because there's a lot of commercial value in knowing how to find a provenance, fast, before a coin is sold to you, so you can bid or buy with more information than anyone else. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I will share is that there are no super easy short cuts because if there were then dealers would use them to find the provenances before they sell you the coin. You need a large resource base - traditionally a library- and you need your own techniques to save time, which take time to learn.</p><p><br /></p><p>Today, I bought the coin below about 20 minutes after a dealer listed it retail at a modest price. I knew about the coin within 5 mins of being listed. I knew by the nature of the coin itself (not just tone but other aspects) that it would have a provenance. Took me 14 frantic minutes of work, from the moment I first saw the coin to locating a provenance (Signorelli collection, sold 1952, and assembled mainly 1930s) and 3 more minutes to buy and pay. Due to what I now know about the coin I reckon it underpriced by $500 or more. So thats why I don't share the techniques except to note that you need a very large resource library with a mix of paper, digital and online, and you need a lot of hard work to find out what coins are likely to have provenances and how to find those fast</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1227057[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1227058[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 5354345, member: 90666"]There are a host of trade secrets in finding provenances, some based on the coin itself, some on where to look and how to prioritise, and some on how to look (training your eyes), and I intend to share none of them here, because there's a lot of commercial value in knowing how to find a provenance, fast, before a coin is sold to you, so you can bid or buy with more information than anyone else. What I will share is that there are no super easy short cuts because if there were then dealers would use them to find the provenances before they sell you the coin. You need a large resource base - traditionally a library- and you need your own techniques to save time, which take time to learn. Today, I bought the coin below about 20 minutes after a dealer listed it retail at a modest price. I knew about the coin within 5 mins of being listed. I knew by the nature of the coin itself (not just tone but other aspects) that it would have a provenance. Took me 14 frantic minutes of work, from the moment I first saw the coin to locating a provenance (Signorelli collection, sold 1952, and assembled mainly 1930s) and 3 more minutes to buy and pay. Due to what I now know about the coin I reckon it underpriced by $500 or more. So thats why I don't share the techniques except to note that you need a very large resource library with a mix of paper, digital and online, and you need a lot of hard work to find out what coins are likely to have provenances and how to find those fast [ATTACH=full]1227057[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1227058[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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