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<p>[QUOTE="sand, post: 7754556, member: 118540"]@<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/the-trachy-enjoyer.118358/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/the-trachy-enjoyer.118358/">The Trachy Enjoyer</a> You mentioned in your post # 3 above :</p><p>"Also some of those coins show figures kneeling but not necessarily in Proskynesis. This is the only type where it really is without a doubt. I think his predecessor Michael VIII has AU and AE types where the emperor is basically standing on his knees but not on all fours in reverence"</p><p>And you mentioned :</p><p><br /></p><p>It seemed like you were saying in your post # 3 above, that the Emperor must be on all fours, to be in proskynesis. Do you believe, that the Emperor on your coin, is on all fours? Do you intend "on all fours" to mean, that the Emperor's hands are on the ground, and the Emperor's knees are on the ground? Or do you intend "on all fours" to mean, that the Emperor must be on his knees, with his torso parallel to the ground (torso horizontal, not vertical), and his arms lowered, but his hands not necessarily touching the ground?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="sand, post: 7754556, member: 118540"]@[URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/the-trachy-enjoyer.118358/']The Trachy Enjoyer[/URL] You mentioned in your post # 3 above : "Also some of those coins show figures kneeling but not necessarily in Proskynesis. This is the only type where it really is without a doubt. I think his predecessor Michael VIII has AU and AE types where the emperor is basically standing on his knees but not on all fours in reverence" And you mentioned : It seemed like you were saying in your post # 3 above, that the Emperor must be on all fours, to be in proskynesis. Do you believe, that the Emperor on your coin, is on all fours? Do you intend "on all fours" to mean, that the Emperor's hands are on the ground, and the Emperor's knees are on the ground? Or do you intend "on all fours" to mean, that the Emperor must be on his knees, with his torso parallel to the ground (torso horizontal, not vertical), and his arms lowered, but his hands not necessarily touching the ground?[/QUOTE]
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