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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1951856, member: 112"]First of all, yes there is such a thing as a properly cleaned coin and yes they are graded and slabbed. There are literally tens of millions of properly cleaned coins in regular NGC and PCGS slabs. And not one of them has any mention of that cleaning on the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>The thing that is somewhat misleading and causes a good part of the confusion regarding this issue is the way that the TPGs label their slabs for harshly/improperly cleaned coins. For instead of putting harshly or improperly cleaned on the label they only use 1 word - cleaned. But there are 2 reasons they do that. 1- is because of space restrictions on the slab label, and 2 - is because they expect people to know what they mean when they say "cleaned".</p><p><br /></p><p>This is what I mean, this the definition/explanation given by PCGS for what "cleaned" means - </p><p><br /></p><p>92|N-2 Cleaned – surface damage due to a harsh, abrasive cleaning</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you look up the word "cleaned" in the PCGS glossary found here - </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/C" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/C" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/C</a></p><p><br /></p><p>- you will find this definition - </p><p><br /></p><p>cleaned</p><p>A term applied to a coin whose original surface has been removed. The effects may be slight or severe, depending on the method used.</p><p><br /></p><p>But nowhere in their glossary will you find either of the terms "properly cleaned" or "conserved" - or any other forms of those 2 words such as clean, cleaning, conserve, conservation, etc etc. </p><p><br /></p><p>That is because proper cleaning and/or conservation are never noted on a slab because there is nothing wrong with it. Cleaning/conserving a coin does no harm to the coin so it is not noted on the slab. Even though the TPG knows for a fact that the coin has been properly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is not the "cleaning" that is bad or wrong, it is only that some methods of cleaning are bad or wrong. And that is why the TPGs differentiate the terms, cleaned and harshly cleaned. When they say cleaned on a slab, harshly cleaned is what they really mean.</p><p><br /></p><p>And yes, if it says cleaned on the slab label, then you should probably avoid those coins for they are problem coins. And depending on the severity of the harsh cleaning a problem coin will only be worth a fraction of what a problem free example is worth.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1951856, member: 112"]First of all, yes there is such a thing as a properly cleaned coin and yes they are graded and slabbed. There are literally tens of millions of properly cleaned coins in regular NGC and PCGS slabs. And not one of them has any mention of that cleaning on the slab. The thing that is somewhat misleading and causes a good part of the confusion regarding this issue is the way that the TPGs label their slabs for harshly/improperly cleaned coins. For instead of putting harshly or improperly cleaned on the label they only use 1 word - cleaned. But there are 2 reasons they do that. 1- is because of space restrictions on the slab label, and 2 - is because they expect people to know what they mean when they say "cleaned". This is what I mean, this the definition/explanation given by PCGS for what "cleaned" means - 92|N-2 Cleaned – surface damage due to a harsh, abrasive cleaning And if you look up the word "cleaned" in the PCGS glossary found here - [url]http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/C[/url] - you will find this definition - cleaned A term applied to a coin whose original surface has been removed. The effects may be slight or severe, depending on the method used. But nowhere in their glossary will you find either of the terms "properly cleaned" or "conserved" - or any other forms of those 2 words such as clean, cleaning, conserve, conservation, etc etc. That is because proper cleaning and/or conservation are never noted on a slab because there is nothing wrong with it. Cleaning/conserving a coin does no harm to the coin so it is not noted on the slab. Even though the TPG knows for a fact that the coin has been properly cleaned. It is not the "cleaning" that is bad or wrong, it is only that some methods of cleaning are bad or wrong. And that is why the TPGs differentiate the terms, cleaned and harshly cleaned. When they say cleaned on a slab, harshly cleaned is what they really mean. And yes, if it says cleaned on the slab label, then you should probably avoid those coins for they are problem coins. And depending on the severity of the harsh cleaning a problem coin will only be worth a fraction of what a problem free example is worth.[/QUOTE]
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