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<p>[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 102052, member: 4381"]You CERTAINLY can tell its dipped if you look close enough. We had a whole discussion on the affect of dipping on the microscopic flow lines of the metal. As a fact, dipping is a chemical reaction with a reducing agent or an acid designed to remove part of the coins material.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is damage. There is no other way to dispassionately look at it. All resortoration damages the object. Its the first rule of resoration. Everything else stated in this thread about dipping and cleaning is opinion, except this statement and related statements about the actual chemical and physical results of dipping. Dipping and "cleaning" a coin damages a coin EVERY TIME. Your using a chemical to react with the coin and remove a layer that you don't want. If it didn't, nobody would do it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Toning is the oxidation of a coins surface from Au + O2 ==> AuO2</p><p><br /></p><p>How in the world can you remove this without removing part of the coin? Do you really think this can't be spotted under a microscope? You can try to reduce the material back to plane silver but don't bet on keeping the surface the way it was. This is not theory. Its not about what someone might like or prefer. Its about the physical and chemical processes that stress the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Real cleaning of a material is a Physical event only. Like removing grease from a shirt with soap. And even that is damaging to the shirt.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ruben[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 102052, member: 4381"]You CERTAINLY can tell its dipped if you look close enough. We had a whole discussion on the affect of dipping on the microscopic flow lines of the metal. As a fact, dipping is a chemical reaction with a reducing agent or an acid designed to remove part of the coins material. This is damage. There is no other way to dispassionately look at it. All resortoration damages the object. Its the first rule of resoration. Everything else stated in this thread about dipping and cleaning is opinion, except this statement and related statements about the actual chemical and physical results of dipping. Dipping and "cleaning" a coin damages a coin EVERY TIME. Your using a chemical to react with the coin and remove a layer that you don't want. If it didn't, nobody would do it. Toning is the oxidation of a coins surface from Au + O2 ==> AuO2 How in the world can you remove this without removing part of the coin? Do you really think this can't be spotted under a microscope? You can try to reduce the material back to plane silver but don't bet on keeping the surface the way it was. This is not theory. Its not about what someone might like or prefer. Its about the physical and chemical processes that stress the coin. Real cleaning of a material is a Physical event only. Like removing grease from a shirt with soap. And even that is damaging to the shirt. Ruben[/QUOTE]
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