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<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 2665591, member: 15199"]JMGallego said:</p><p><br /></p><p> Yes, the so-called "sniffer" (can be an analysis instrument called Surface Enhanced Raman Scattering, SERS <a href="http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/129/8/1716.short" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/129/8/1716.short" rel="nofollow">http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/129/8/1716.short</a> or even by Infrared reflectance spectra, <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010938X70800269" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010938X70800269" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010938X70800269</a> ) will detect films of benzotriazole (BTA) on the surface of a coppe coin or in a coin contains copper (such a 90% silver coins). BTA does not "disappear", it creates CuBTA by covalent bonds with copper atoms.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Do you have references for the part "BTA does not "disappear", it creates CuBTA by covalent bonds with copper atoms."</p><p><br /></p><p>BTA does combine with copper, but the copper can not then maintain the metallic bonding with the coin. That is why references also refer to this as a "passive layer". The passive layer is insoluble in water, and in most but not all organic solutions, which leads me to believe that it is not permanent then it can be removed. I know its use has been explored for other coins, especially ancient coin bronze disease problems. I am not saying you are incorrect, just where you found the info as last I read on this a while back the bonding and structure of the cu-BTA was somewhat controversial. Thanks[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 2665591, member: 15199"]JMGallego said: Yes, the so-called "sniffer" (can be an analysis instrument called Surface Enhanced Raman Scattering, SERS [url]http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/129/8/1716.short[/url] or even by Infrared reflectance spectra, [url]http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010938X70800269[/url] ) will detect films of benzotriazole (BTA) on the surface of a coppe coin or in a coin contains copper (such a 90% silver coins). BTA does not "disappear", it creates CuBTA by covalent bonds with copper atoms. Do you have references for the part "BTA does not "disappear", it creates CuBTA by covalent bonds with copper atoms." BTA does combine with copper, but the copper can not then maintain the metallic bonding with the coin. That is why references also refer to this as a "passive layer". The passive layer is insoluble in water, and in most but not all organic solutions, which leads me to believe that it is not permanent then it can be removed. I know its use has been explored for other coins, especially ancient coin bronze disease problems. I am not saying you are incorrect, just where you found the info as last I read on this a while back the bonding and structure of the cu-BTA was somewhat controversial. Thanks[/QUOTE]
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