Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Chip Kirkpatrick, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    If you think you may have found a new error, what are the procedures for having it confirmed or denied?

    any ideas on the length of time or amount of money involved?

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  3. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    define "new error"
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  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    we have a couple error and graders here on CT. Fred Weinberg and Insider are two that come to mind. If you get them interested it's a good first step.
  5. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    Generally, I would start by posting it on a thread here and see what people have to say about it. Then It would go to a TPG to get slabbed.
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  6. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    'prolly for his quarter horse ...

    but just type the "@" then type "Fred Weinberg"
    and "@" and "Insider"

    and those will create Alerts to those two people.
    such as @Chip Kirkpatrick
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Let me look at it also..
  8. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    Do you mean error or variety? TPG grader may look at it for 15 seconds, here is is seen by many ,perhaps of equivalence skills or better and usually observed by many over a longer period of time....and free advice form skilled people is a present. Jim
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  9. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Post your coin and a description here,
    and we're glad to comment on it.

    We can tell you if it's a genuine error coin,
    or a damaged coin.
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It is my understanding that TPG's like NGC and PCGS will not attribute varieties unless they have already been authenticated by a known service.

  11. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    He is talking about "new errors" not varieties i guess.
  12. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Don’t get any better than here. Show us the money!
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  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't know, either. A couple of people have already asked him to clarify his comment, but he has not responded.

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  14. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

  15. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    I took this to our local coin expert and he studied it and said it is a one of a kind error. If you remember “the spitting horse” it is along those lines.
  16. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    And in regards to my “quarter horse” he looked at that and also said 4. Then he looked at it again and starting laughing and said he saw what I saw which is between the second and fourth rung of the fence there is a vertical line along the legs. He thinks it is a design error. 41525C08-3A41-42DD-83BA-D595F811E72E.jpeg
  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    I've heard this statement many times before.. Not all coinshop owners are mint error specialists. Not all coin collectors have full knowledge of the minting process and how errors are created..

    Best bet is to send it to have not just graded but also attributed (verified) by a third party grader. NGC or PCGS would be two of the best attributors of mint errors.
    Your "specialist" friend should guide you in the submission process. It will take time and money. Im sure your friend can tell you how much and how long.
    Then when the results come back you can post your findings and gloat about them.

    I hope this was helpful. Until then... Good luck.

    Peace :angelic:
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2019
  18. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Good advice.
    And by the way Terry has several finds noted in Cherrypickers and he trained his daughter and she is a grader for one of the companies. Reportedly he took her to a coin show when she was 10 and a couple of people asked him to look at a gold coin. The owner hoped it would sell for $30,000. He handed the coin to his daughter who quickly pronounced it was a counterfeit. The owner started challenging her and she told him not to worry because the counterfeiter did such good work that his coins were highly collectible and he should get closer to $40,000. And I ws told that he Actually did.
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  19. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    This site is probably the best place to get great FREE feedback on your coins. If you want to send them off, I would suggest using someone else BEFORE going to NGC or PCGS.

    These are a couple of options to get new varieties attributed. I've sent several to John Wexler ( $5 per coin. He is slowing down, but still provides the service. He writes sometimes for the Coin World Mag, and may include new varieties in articles. If he attributes it as a new variety, you can use his letter to send to ANACS to have it slabbed as such without paying their attribution fee. You can also send them to James Wiles at VarietyVista, $10 per coin. ( Services.htm). Same thing with sending to ANACS.

    I've also sent pictures of errors to Mike Diamond. He can also provide feedback. As mentioned above, members Fred Weinberg, Insider, Paddyman98, Rick Stachowski, and others are a great source.

    Good Luck!
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