...Probus...Face Thyself!...

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  1. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Just got these in today, along with another ancient..these measure 21 & 23 mm respectively and weigh in at 3.83 & 3.18 grams. Still a lil silvering on the 1st one(i thought from the sellers pics it was BD, but yay, it wasn't:)). Probus was an interesting dude and had a purdy long career afa emperors of the 3rd century crisis goes, from 276 to 282 AD, but he was killed by his own troops like many before and after him..he was the last emperor to give credence to the senate.. The reverses show Jupiter either handing or holding a globe to or with the emperor, right facing reverse is Concordia and the left one is Clementia temp (Antioch i reckon).

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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Very nice, @ominus1!! I like the Clementia Temp types. Here is a humble one:
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    Probus, AE Antoninianus,
    Struck 276-282 AD, Antioch Mint

    Obverse: IMP CM AVR PROBVS PF AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: CLEMENTIA TEMP, emperor standing right, holding scepter and receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter, standing left, holding scepter, officina letter A in lower center.
    Exergue: XXI
    References: RIC V Antioch 922
     
  4. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Nice ones G - still no Probus for me.
     
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  5. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I like Probus. I only have one coin for him, but definitely will add more eventually. Probus was a very competent emperor, so it's a shame his troops murdered him. By all accounts, the soldiers immediately regretted their action.

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  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Very nice Probus both with differing garment styles, congrats. 217020 (3).jpg
    Probus AD 276-282. Rome
    Antoninianus Æ silvered

    23mm., 4,96g.

    IMP PROBVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right, with Medusa on breastplate / ROMAE AETER, hexastyle temple within which statue of Roma holding Victory or Palladium and sceptre, in exergue, R crescent Γ.
     
  7. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Got this one from the bottom of a $20 pick bin/bag at NYINC a couple years ago...I think it was a steal, I love the reverse. Never fully attributed it, but I believe it’s from Serdica.

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    IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate and mantled bust right, holding eagle-tipped scepter/ Rev. SOL INVICTO, Sol in spread Quadriga holding whip, KAΓ in exergue
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here are the attributions and my own examples for comparison to the the OP coins

    Probus
    Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Jupiter standing left with scepter, giving globe surmounted by eagle to Probus
    Minted in Antioch (B in centre field, XXI in exe)
    Reference:– RIC 921 Bust type C

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    Probus
    Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate bust left in consular robe holding eagle-tipped scepter in left
    Rev:– CONCORD MILIT, Emperor standing right, clasping hand of Concordia
    Minted in Siscia (T / XXI)
    Reference:– Alfoldi type 26, no 110. RIC 650 Bust Type H

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    The gorgeous example from Serdica shared by @Shea19 was an absolute steal. The right facing busts are more desirable than the standard left facing type.

    That one would be a RIC 861 var.

    Here is my standard leftie for 861.

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    And of course there are several other busts to look out for too.

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    Here is a left-right combination from RIC 862 (without the P F)

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    Martin
     
  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    One of the nice things about Probus is that there are many coins of his in nice condition available for reasonable prices. As already pointed out, there are a lot of interesting bust types and other potential sub-collection possibilities. He would be a great emperor for a beginning collector to focus on, and one could go a long, long time before exhausting all the different types.

    This coin here has a nice obverse, and I like the PAX reverse type, but the reverse is poorly struck from a weak die. I should probably try to upgrade it, but here it is:
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    Billon Antoninianus
    Siscia mint
    Obv: IMP C PROBVS P F AVG
    Rev: PAX AVG - Pax, standing, facing left, holding scepter and olive branch
    XXI in exergue; T in right field
    RIC 706
    22mm, 4.2g.
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  11. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Nice!!
    This is a new Probus that I picked up..
    I love the toning, great strike and awesome Victory..

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    RIC 215, Antoninianus
    OBV.: PROBVS P F AVG
    Radiate, and cuirassed bust right.
    REV.: VICTORIA AVG
    Victory advancing left, holding wreath and trophy.
    R (thunderbolt) S in exergue (if that is an "s" .. also see "stigma" (6) ?)
    22mm, 4.5 g.
     
  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here are my only left-facing Probus issues:

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    Probus, AD 276-282.
    Roman billon antoninianus; 3.78 g, 20.1 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, AD 277-280.
    Obv: IMP PROBVS P F AVG, radiate bust right in consular robe, eagle tipped scepter in right hand.
    Rev: ROMAE AETER, temple, statue of Roma seated facing inside; in exergue, R * A.
    Refs: RIC 183; Cohen 533; RCV 12027 var.

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    Probus, AD 276-282.
    Roman billon Antoninianus 3.25 g; 21.7 mm.
    Ticinium mint, AD 280-82.
    Obv: VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust, left, holding spear and shield.
    Rev: SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent held in arms. V in left field; * in right field, TXXI in exergue.
    Refs: RIC-500; Cohen 584.
     
  13. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Nice new Probies! I'm still looking for one of those Saturninus fillers.:watching:
    Here's my latest:
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    Probus
    AD276-282.Antioch Antoninianus Æ silvered 20mm., 3,42g. IMP C M AVR PROVBS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / RESTITVT ORBIS, female personification of Orbis Terrarumstanding, facing right, holding wreath, emperor standing, facing left, holding globe and scepter, ЄΔ between, XXI in exergue. very fine RIC 925.
     
  14. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Let me show some Probi that are slightly or not-so-slightly different. The first is an antoninianus with less angular portrait.

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    Probus 276-282, Antoninianus, Lyons mint, 279. Obv. Radiate and cuirassed bust right. IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG. Rev. Laetitia standing slightly to the left, holding wreath and sceptre. LAETITIA AVGVSTI. Traces of silvering. 21 mm, 4.08 gr. Apparently from a large hoard from Lyons.

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    Probus 276-282, Antoninianus error strike. Obv. Helmeted bust to the right with text SPFAVG, double strike. Rev. Jupiter with lightning, IOVI CONS PR(OB AVG). 25 x 21 cm, 3.12 gr. RIC 175, Rome.

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    This patina'ed brockage actually enhances the portrait and the attraction of the coin.
    Probus 276-282, Antoninianus brockage. Obv. Radiate, cuirassed bust to the left. IMPPRO BVSAVG. Rev. Same, incuse. 21.5/24 mm, 3.45 gr.
     
  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's mine (will be upgraded)

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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I remain convinced that coins of Probus would be much more popular had he lived just a couple decades earlier when silver coins were still silver enough not to need the silver wash that has left so many otherwise decent coins blotchy and unattractive.
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Here's a lefty and righty probus!

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  18. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the attribution help, Martin...I was definitely lucky to find this one in the bargain bag, you never know what'll turn up in there.

    I love that brockage, @Pellinore, that's a great coin.
     
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  19. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Saturninus caused Probus
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    Coming to visit Probus
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    Foresight Probus
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    Sol's sweet ride Probus
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  20. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Doug, on your second coin, I don't recall seeing an example of all the "dots" or whatever, below the quadriga. Do you know what they represent?
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This was a Chariot of Fire. Those are the flames we associate with Sol. That one is the best I have seen. Below is one with longer and fewer flames.
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