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<p>[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 2970178, member: 31620"]Perhaps I wasn't clear. This is a modern die part of a set of dies (possibly transfer dies) that has been used to create a whole host of fakes since about 2009. They have been quite creative and tried to push oddities into the market including brockage examples. I have posted this one on Forvm and one collector there believe that he bought another two years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a standard example of the use of this die that doesn't scream out immediately in that the style of the obverse is Rome and it would match with the reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Probus~0.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is another where the coloration is toned bronze rather then silvered.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_04.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>The same obverse die is used to create an oddity where the reverse is a Probus coin from Serdica!</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_02.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Aurelian reverse?</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_05.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Carus/Carinus/Numerian from Antioch reverse?</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_03.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>I can go on with more and more but I think you get the point. I had not seen an example of the "brockage" before from this die but recognised the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>The spread nature of the incuse strike is fairly normal for a brockage.</p><p><br /></p><p>These fakers are always looking to find a creative way to add value from their dies. Creating a few brockage examples and selling them at a premium is obviously worth their while.</p><p><br /></p><p>Does this help?</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Martin[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 2970178, member: 31620"]Perhaps I wasn't clear. This is a modern die part of a set of dies (possibly transfer dies) that has been used to create a whole host of fakes since about 2009. They have been quite creative and tried to push oddities into the market including brockage examples. I have posted this one on Forvm and one collector there believe that he bought another two years ago. Here is a standard example of the use of this die that doesn't scream out immediately in that the style of the obverse is Rome and it would match with the reverse. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Probus~0.JPG[/IMG] Here is another where the coloration is toned bronze rather then silvered. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_04.JPG[/IMG] The same obverse die is used to create an oddity where the reverse is a Probus coin from Serdica! [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_02.JPG[/IMG] Aurelian reverse? [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_05.JPG[/IMG] Carus/Carinus/Numerian from Antioch reverse? [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/10618/Probus_03.JPG[/IMG] I can go on with more and more but I think you get the point. I had not seen an example of the "brockage" before from this die but recognised the die. The spread nature of the incuse strike is fairly normal for a brockage. These fakers are always looking to find a creative way to add value from their dies. Creating a few brockage examples and selling them at a premium is obviously worth their while. Does this help? Regards, Martin[/QUOTE]
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