Probus ...a new addition.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by YOC, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    I did not not have a Probus in my collection, although I have wanted one for a while. I like their style and find them very appealing. However, as I generally buy groups of later coins, I just havent bumped into any. Yesterday I met a dealer/collector from my local area and bought a few coins from him. One was this coin, which i immediately spotted must have come from a hoard. The detail was there, but the fields were filled with a pale green hard deposit.
    I wish I had taken photos, because the transformation once I had soaked the coin in my witches brew was spectacular. I had no idea that the coin was silvered until I rubbed the green away with a cotton bud.
    The coin cost me £14 GBP, which I think was fair bearing in mind the condition it was in when I bought it, but I think its a bit better now. Please show me some of your Probus coins....the more silver the better!!
    ps. I cant make out the mint mark on this one...its R and then possibly a thunderbolt and another character??
    3.6g
    22mm
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    R "thunderbolt" gamma?

    darn near flawless details on that bust!

    here's mine of the type, of of my 4 probus coins from 2015.

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    PROBUS Antoninianus, 276-282 AD
    O: IMP PROBVS AVG Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield. R: ADVENTVS AVG Emperor riding left hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive., R (star) S in ex. 20x24 mm, 3.8g Rome mint, RIC 157
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Wow, what a beauty, YOC.

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    Probus (276-282 AD)
    AE silvered Antoninianus
    A: IMP CM AVR PROBVS PF AVG, radiate bust in imperial mantle l., holding eagle-tipped sceptre.
    R: SOLI INVICTO / CM / XXIT, radiate Sol in spread quadriga, hand risen, holding whip.
    22mm
    3.8g
    Cyzicus, 3rd officina
    RIC Vb Cyzicus 911
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I like Probus but don't have the rare ones like Martin may be showing. Instead I will address your statement:
    I have a real problem with silvering. 100% silver is great. 0% silver is fine with me. The problem comes when you have %0% silver arranged in a patchy pattern making it hard to see the designs.

    Probus has three major portrait styles: Plain, Military and Consular. Each has many variations including some really rare ones but a general collector might want one of each as a starter.

    Plain bust, little silver Tripolis mint Jupiter and emperor - KA alloy mark for 20:1
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    Same thing with silver - which is better?
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    Military bust - very different but similar
    Serdica - no silver
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    Siscia silvered
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    Consular silvered Ticinum
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    Consular patchy silver Siscia
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Beautiful coin YOC.
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  7. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bing!.
    Doug, patchy silver siscia is my favourite from your selection. Beautiful.
    The reason I was interested in seeing heavily silvered is because my coin looks silver, not just silvered. I was interested to see how many really heavily silvered coins are out there as usually as you rightly pointed out, they look patchy.
    Lovely coins everyone, thanks . I am drooling to own some more.
     
  8. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    great new addition YOC, love that obv. bust, added to my want list... heres my three Probus...

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    Probus AE Antoninianus. Rome mint. IMP PROBVS AVG, radiate & cuirassed bust right / VICTORIA GERM, Trophy between two captives, R-dot in crescent-A in ex.
    RIC V 222, crescent
    22mm 3.3g
    Refers to a victorious campaign in Gaul circa AD 278.

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    Probus, AE Antoninianus, AD 276-282. Serdica. IMP CM AVR PROBVS AVG,
    radiate bust left, wearing imperial mantle, holding eagle-tipped sceptre / SOLI
    INVICTO, Sol, radiate, holding globe and raising right hand, standing in facing,
    spread quadriga. Mintmark: KA dot gamma dot, RIC V-2 Serdica 862 var (bust
    type and officina).
    22.75mm 3.3g

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    Probus AE Antoninianus. Antioch mint. 276-282 AD IMP C M AVR PROBVS P
    F AVG, radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right / CLEMENTIA TEMP, emperor
    standing right with sceptre, receiving Victory from Jupiter standing left with
    sceptre, A between. Mintmark XXI.
    RIC V 922, A
     
  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Now that's minty fresh! Love the detail on the shield and cuirass.

    No silvering...
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    Patchy silvering...
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  10. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    I can only deduce that the cleaning methods employed by different dealers contribute to the silvering/patchy/no silvering. Most of the sharp coins in this thread are from hoards, that is irrefutable and certain acids I know dealers use will dissolve silver if left in too long, so poor timing and harsh cleaning methods sadly seem to be the contributing factors.
     
  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The OP coin is very nice. It looks like officina 3 - Gamma. This is the closest I have.

    Probus

    Obv:– IMP PROBVS AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield
    Rev:– ADVENTVS AVG, Emperor riding left, right hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive
    Minted in Rome (R thunderbolt S (digamma) in exe) Emission 6 Officina 6. A.D. 280
    Reference(s) – RIC 157 Bust Type G

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    Martin
     
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  12. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    That's a lovely coin Martin, the reverse is fantastic.
     
  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Awesome coins all

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