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<p>[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 322968, member: 5629"]Only with a warrant obtained upon due cause. "Due cause" does not mean that an officer or any other actor of the State may arbitrarily determine on his own merit that he has a good reason for doing something. The only time an officer may act without a warrant is in a situation of a crime in progress, <b>NEVER</b> during investigation!</p><p><br /></p><p>An officer may detain (in my State it is considered arrest) a person during investigation, but faces the possibility of losing indemnification and criminal action for false arrest if he is found to have done so without a warrant. The Wyoming Constitution explicitly states "Arbitrary and absolute power does not exist in a republic". This is a coverall of the Federal "Bill of Rights".</p><p><br /></p><p>Due process exists for a reason - to protect everybody involved. Warrants are a trivial thing for an officer to obtain. During the investigation process, there is more than ample time and ability to obtain such a warrant upon affidavit by the officer.</p><p><br /></p><p>Case law has upheld (Maryland v. Dyson, 527 U.S. 465, 119 S. Ct. 2013, 144 L. Ed. 2d 442) that a warrant is <b>required</b> to seize property, as well as the fact that an officer is required to obtain such a warrant (lippo v. West Virginia, 528 U.S. 11, 120 S. Ct. 7, 145 L. Ed. 2d 16). That is not to say that a person may <i>willingly</i> give up the item in question. But in doing so, the individual should most definitely obtain a receipt and itemization of all items surrendered to the officer(s). This applies as well to a business establishment.</p><p><br /></p><p>To argue that the police do not "need" a warrant just does not hold ground on this issue since case law as well as written public law state otherwise. Could you imagine if the FBI could have simply entered NORFED and Sunshine establishments without any warrant or oversight and taken whatever they wanted? Well, they didn't and <b>couldn't</b> because they needed a properly executed warranted defining the exact place and items to be seized.</p><p><br /></p><p>demand your rights, or face losing them. Any true patriot will demand his rights and act accordingly.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 322968, member: 5629"]Only with a warrant obtained upon due cause. "Due cause" does not mean that an officer or any other actor of the State may arbitrarily determine on his own merit that he has a good reason for doing something. The only time an officer may act without a warrant is in a situation of a crime in progress, [B]NEVER[/B] during investigation! An officer may detain (in my State it is considered arrest) a person during investigation, but faces the possibility of losing indemnification and criminal action for false arrest if he is found to have done so without a warrant. The Wyoming Constitution explicitly states "Arbitrary and absolute power does not exist in a republic". This is a coverall of the Federal "Bill of Rights". Due process exists for a reason - to protect everybody involved. Warrants are a trivial thing for an officer to obtain. During the investigation process, there is more than ample time and ability to obtain such a warrant upon affidavit by the officer. Case law has upheld (Maryland v. Dyson, 527 U.S. 465, 119 S. Ct. 2013, 144 L. Ed. 2d 442) that a warrant is [B]required[/B] to seize property, as well as the fact that an officer is required to obtain such a warrant (lippo v. West Virginia, 528 U.S. 11, 120 S. Ct. 7, 145 L. Ed. 2d 16). That is not to say that a person may [I]willingly[/I] give up the item in question. But in doing so, the individual should most definitely obtain a receipt and itemization of all items surrendered to the officer(s). This applies as well to a business establishment. To argue that the police do not "need" a warrant just does not hold ground on this issue since case law as well as written public law state otherwise. Could you imagine if the FBI could have simply entered NORFED and Sunshine establishments without any warrant or oversight and taken whatever they wanted? Well, they didn't and [B]couldn't[/B] because they needed a properly executed warranted defining the exact place and items to be seized. demand your rights, or face losing them. Any true patriot will demand his rights and act accordingly.[/QUOTE]
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