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<p>[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 322957, member: 5629"]The Fourth Amendment requires a warrant for any seizure of property with regards to criminal cases only. Since this is obviously a criminal case, the Fourth Amendment applies. In this case, the officer <b>must</b> obtain a warrant. The warrant may only be issued upon probable cause <b>AND</b> affidavit by the officer (NORFED is the most recent example of this <b>requirement</b> under law).</p><p><br /></p><p>Case law has upheld this requirement. There is judicial oversight with regards to seizure for a reason. it not only protects the actor of the State under local indemnification laws, but also the current holder of the questionable property and the "legal' owner (if different). Warrants are quite a trivial matter, especially since a magistrate of local jurisdiction has the authority to issue such a writ. The writ of warrant also "insures" that the actual item in question only is seized as well as safeguards against items being unlawfully seized.</p><p><br /></p><p>The items would normally only be seized <b>AS EVIDENCE</b> in a criminal case. If the item is automatically returned to the self claimed "legal" owner without due process of law, then someone in the process has done something quite illegal. our country's governmental systems are set up with a set due process of law and checks and balances for a reason.</p><p><br /></p><p>As American patriots, we must demand at all times that these processes and our rights are upheld to the fullest, or chance losing them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 322957, member: 5629"]The Fourth Amendment requires a warrant for any seizure of property with regards to criminal cases only. Since this is obviously a criminal case, the Fourth Amendment applies. In this case, the officer [B]must[/B] obtain a warrant. The warrant may only be issued upon probable cause [B]AND[/B] affidavit by the officer (NORFED is the most recent example of this [B]requirement[/B] under law). Case law has upheld this requirement. There is judicial oversight with regards to seizure for a reason. it not only protects the actor of the State under local indemnification laws, but also the current holder of the questionable property and the "legal' owner (if different). Warrants are quite a trivial matter, especially since a magistrate of local jurisdiction has the authority to issue such a writ. The writ of warrant also "insures" that the actual item in question only is seized as well as safeguards against items being unlawfully seized. The items would normally only be seized [B]AS EVIDENCE[/B] in a criminal case. If the item is automatically returned to the self claimed "legal" owner without due process of law, then someone in the process has done something quite illegal. our country's governmental systems are set up with a set due process of law and checks and balances for a reason. As American patriots, we must demand at all times that these processes and our rights are upheld to the fullest, or chance losing them.[/QUOTE]
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