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<p>[QUOTE="JGAIN, post: 408338, member: 15346"]<b>Counterfiet vs Genuine</b></p><p><br /></p><p>As far as I am concerned, this is a nice <i>better than average</i> example of a genuine VF Large Motto 1866 2 Cent piece. It is a very "clean" coin.</p><p> </p><p>There is no doubt the coin had been previously "cleaned", but evidently not with a highly abrasive cleaner. Coloring is normal and as I have seen on hundreds of these coins, nothing special. There are no known attributes, double lettering, recut dates, etc.</p><p> </p><p>There seems to be the usual contact marks generally found on coins and the strike is very good, evenly centered there is an even wear pattern across the coin - definately not a cast or otherwise a molded piece. Yes, there is some evidence of light corrosion (pitting) but nothing serious is noted.</p><p> </p><p>The missing Serif on the "D" is not a factor as many coins have taken a "hit" just right to flatten or obliterate a small character in a design or a filled die obstructs a part of a design device. I have seen many such things over 45 years in this business. I would not give it a second thought.</p><p> </p><p>Someone mentioned a "ring" test. I never heard of a <i>ring</i> test for a brass or bronze coin. In the old days, before electronic scales, measuring and other "assaying" devices, people had a tendency to "drop" the coin to listen to the "bell ring" of a heavy silver coin - which told practically nothing as to <i>authenticity</i> because many counterfiets were made from 90%, or so, silver content - and, this worked to some extent on smaller denominations, too. But, too many "drops" damaged a nice coin and they usually slid a grade or two over time.</p><p> </p><p>As to "bumps and bubbles" in the field, many coin planchets were formed out to private concerns and the quality from one batch to another was not up to par sometimes - I have even seen laminated sections on these old coins ........ on our modern Lincolns one can readily see "bubbles" but this is from the copper plating, and in 1866 the Two Cent piece was not plated ..... but, this is another story ........</p><p> </p><p>If the coin is within the mint's limits of 96 grains, I'd say there is no question as to it's authenticity. Actually, I'd say there should be no question or concern at all about this coin being genuine.</p><p> </p><p>Enjoy that beauty![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JGAIN, post: 408338, member: 15346"][b]Counterfiet vs Genuine[/b] As far as I am concerned, this is a nice [I]better than average[/I] example of a genuine VF Large Motto 1866 2 Cent piece. It is a very "clean" coin. There is no doubt the coin had been previously "cleaned", but evidently not with a highly abrasive cleaner. Coloring is normal and as I have seen on hundreds of these coins, nothing special. There are no known attributes, double lettering, recut dates, etc. There seems to be the usual contact marks generally found on coins and the strike is very good, evenly centered there is an even wear pattern across the coin - definately not a cast or otherwise a molded piece. Yes, there is some evidence of light corrosion (pitting) but nothing serious is noted. The missing Serif on the "D" is not a factor as many coins have taken a "hit" just right to flatten or obliterate a small character in a design or a filled die obstructs a part of a design device. I have seen many such things over 45 years in this business. I would not give it a second thought. Someone mentioned a "ring" test. I never heard of a [I]ring[/I] test for a brass or bronze coin. In the old days, before electronic scales, measuring and other "assaying" devices, people had a tendency to "drop" the coin to listen to the "bell ring" of a heavy silver coin - which told practically nothing as to [I]authenticity[/I] because many counterfiets were made from 90%, or so, silver content - and, this worked to some extent on smaller denominations, too. But, too many "drops" damaged a nice coin and they usually slid a grade or two over time. As to "bumps and bubbles" in the field, many coin planchets were formed out to private concerns and the quality from one batch to another was not up to par sometimes - I have even seen laminated sections on these old coins ........ on our modern Lincolns one can readily see "bubbles" but this is from the copper plating, and in 1866 the Two Cent piece was not plated ..... but, this is another story ........ If the coin is within the mint's limits of 96 grains, I'd say there is no question as to it's authenticity. Actually, I'd say there should be no question or concern at all about this coin being genuine. Enjoy that beauty![/QUOTE]
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