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<p>[QUOTE="DavidinCA, post: 1325457, member: 34905"]I have not yet bought the red or blue book or any other book concerning values of coins. What I have done is pulled up a number of web sites that have given their range of values of what they believe certain coins to be worth. First off, are yearly pricing books good since pricing of coins can change frequently and therefore book pricing cannot keep up with online guides.</p><p><br /></p><p>Numismaster.com appears to have a good website that details their suggested pricing of coins. But the website says that the pricing is only for those graded by PCGS . . . and does not say whether it is the suggested price for a retailer, or an EBay experience. Obviously there is quite a difference between the expected value on numismaster.com and what coins are selling for on EBay. The question is whether this pricing 'guide' on Numismaster is only a range or suggested value, and that coins that sell for 1/2 the suggested price on EBay doesn't invalidate the coins value? For instance if a PCGS MS65 coin can be auctioned on EBay for $250, but has a $600 value on Numismaster (or any other price guide), what is the real value? Did I make money on paper on the deal, or is the value what I paid for the coin because a coin is only worth what someone is willing able to pay?</p><p><br /></p><p>Price in a guide book or online resource is a good starting point to determine what a coin might be worth at a given point in time. But I've recently read online that one really doesn't want to pay full listing price, but many use a 70% rule. If a coin has a list value of $900, then someone wouldn't want to buy it for more than $630. I've also noticed that on EBay, coins are often sold at the list price that is 2 or 3 or 4 grades lower than what the grade of coin is. For instance, an XF40 coin sold for a price guide price of a VF20. Is that common on EBay? Is that common at retail or coin shop or show?</p><p><br /></p><p>The price one pays .... lowest price possible for the highest quality goods . . . is important. But for instance on ebay, let's take 20 Morgan silver dollars that have a melt value of $24 a coin. That means the 20 coins have a total melt value of $480. But if you were able to buy those coins for $480, and immediately sell them for melt, you wouldn't get $480. You might if lucky get 90% of melt or $432. But I've found it impossible lately on EBay to get Morgan Dollars for less than melt....even when the condition is unkown! People seem to be paying more than melt value for bad looking coins . . . even I know this with my limited knowledge . . . when they aren't worth more than the silver in the coin. So why do some coins in an auction sell for $100 or $200 less than price book value? Are they deals or just not the 'quality' others are looking for and therefore fetch a lower price even with the PCGS designation? It doesn't make much sense to me that a bunch of terrible looking G coins would sell for above melt, while other well graded coins sell for less than their book value - unless that's the nature of the beast.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DavidinCA, post: 1325457, member: 34905"]I have not yet bought the red or blue book or any other book concerning values of coins. What I have done is pulled up a number of web sites that have given their range of values of what they believe certain coins to be worth. First off, are yearly pricing books good since pricing of coins can change frequently and therefore book pricing cannot keep up with online guides. Numismaster.com appears to have a good website that details their suggested pricing of coins. But the website says that the pricing is only for those graded by PCGS . . . and does not say whether it is the suggested price for a retailer, or an EBay experience. Obviously there is quite a difference between the expected value on numismaster.com and what coins are selling for on EBay. The question is whether this pricing 'guide' on Numismaster is only a range or suggested value, and that coins that sell for 1/2 the suggested price on EBay doesn't invalidate the coins value? For instance if a PCGS MS65 coin can be auctioned on EBay for $250, but has a $600 value on Numismaster (or any other price guide), what is the real value? Did I make money on paper on the deal, or is the value what I paid for the coin because a coin is only worth what someone is willing able to pay? Price in a guide book or online resource is a good starting point to determine what a coin might be worth at a given point in time. But I've recently read online that one really doesn't want to pay full listing price, but many use a 70% rule. If a coin has a list value of $900, then someone wouldn't want to buy it for more than $630. I've also noticed that on EBay, coins are often sold at the list price that is 2 or 3 or 4 grades lower than what the grade of coin is. For instance, an XF40 coin sold for a price guide price of a VF20. Is that common on EBay? Is that common at retail or coin shop or show? The price one pays .... lowest price possible for the highest quality goods . . . is important. But for instance on ebay, let's take 20 Morgan silver dollars that have a melt value of $24 a coin. That means the 20 coins have a total melt value of $480. But if you were able to buy those coins for $480, and immediately sell them for melt, you wouldn't get $480. You might if lucky get 90% of melt or $432. But I've found it impossible lately on EBay to get Morgan Dollars for less than melt....even when the condition is unkown! People seem to be paying more than melt value for bad looking coins . . . even I know this with my limited knowledge . . . when they aren't worth more than the silver in the coin. So why do some coins in an auction sell for $100 or $200 less than price book value? Are they deals or just not the 'quality' others are looking for and therefore fetch a lower price even with the PCGS designation? It doesn't make much sense to me that a bunch of terrible looking G coins would sell for above melt, while other well graded coins sell for less than their book value - unless that's the nature of the beast.[/QUOTE]
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