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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bahabully, post: 1018297, member: 17555&quot;]Well first,, complements on the reply.. nice. Showing my ignorance abit here, but I couldn&#039;t tell the original coin was bag toned... The one leadfoot posts is easy for me to ID as bag toned, but I missed the texture in the others. </p><p>I like your theory of toning price support in a post toner crash induced by supply side surplus... but I don&#039;t believe:</p><p>1 - tpg&#039;s will call an entire segment of coins, especially one that generates $ non-market acceptable... but they may eventually invest in more exacting sniffing and testing equipment, and even charge a premium to certify a toner (hummmm... ya hear that TPG boys,, MORE REVENUE ! ). </p><p>2 - coin doctors would flood the market with passable toners. Being smart, the real experts, will probably slowly leak in additional toner samples in a quantity that the market will support.. why destroy thier printing press ?</p><p>The manufacture of &quot;outstanding&quot; NT toners is not something I think many are good at (note the number of raw neon doughnuts listed on ebay),, my guess is that these coin doctors fall into a couple groups: </p><p>1 - rookies and intermediates who mass tone common coins and maybe get 1 to 5 of 100 that are good enough to fool a tpg, and then sell the rest to the bay for cost and make good on the few that slab. 2 - No crap experts in the field who know the tpg&#039;s, know how to tone coins and impart &quot;real&quot; toning skin to a coin in a desired pattern.. these guys probably have done thier homework, know how to pattern tone, have run numerous trials and exacted the methodology,, and spend a few years on each coin (maybe less), know the chemistry to the ppm, can saturate a canvas bag (or book) to that level of sulfer ppm, test the toning medium to ensure the specs are correct,, have enough $ to purchase quality coins, and impart the toning effectively over time....... and then &#039;leak&#039; these toning monstors into the market at the highest levels and at the highest premiums.....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I think that may already be happening at the lower levels of the market... the higher end will take longer because it is exclusive of rookies and intermediates,,, and the experts and tpg&#039;s are not gonna let too many leak in at once and see thier printing press eroded (or tarnished,,,,, or toned ; )</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It&#039;s all a big conspiracy ... lol.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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