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<p>[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1014610, member: 26784"]I read through this whole thread and I can appreciate another man’s opinion as much as the next guy....we are all entitled to believe what we want but I try to be a little more responsible with my statements as I understand that my finances and what I like to collect do not match that of other collectors so before I make inaccurate and insensitive comments I try to consider all view points.</p><p><br /></p><p>#1 You made reference to neon paint and make an assumption that you could buy blast white examples and duplicate the color....if you could you would as I have heard that argument for years and to date I have never seen anyone actually do this successfully. There is a lot of money to be made so go for it!</p><p><br /></p><p>#2 You questioned the images themselves...they're worked on or the coin is held under extreme lighting. One of the reasons this coin will sell for moon money it because that most likely is not the case. Early ‘S’ mint Morgan’s are known to have amazing luster and semi-pl surfaces so when you throw neon toning on top of that you usually get a coin with extreme pop and quality of color. I have seen hundreds of monster toners like this in hand and probably even owned a few so I believe it is wise to not make assumptions on photos unless you have seen the coin in hand...but hey that's just me lol</p><p><br /></p><p>#3 You made comments about the high probability of there being shill bidding going on with the auctions. Yes you may have been joking but based on the rest of the negative comments you made it makes me wonder if you were truly joking. I believe there is still a solid market for these high level toners but now days there are far fewer collectors willing or able to drop $5k-$10k on common date toners but rest assured there are still buyers happy to spend their hard earned money for them.</p><p><br /></p><p>#4 You believe there are thousands of eBay buyers readily able to drop $5k on coins if they wanted to but obviously they don't see value in dropping that kind of money on common date toners. Unless you are Nostradamus I don't see how you could even remotely validate such a statement/opinion. I can tell you that I would pay more for toners like this than most folks on the planet as I see value in them but rough economic times make that an impossibility right now. Do not mistake a lack of buyers for there being a lack of interest because that is most likely not the case. I think percentage wise there are very few coin transactions on Ebay that are $5k and above just because of the fees alone. I know dozens of dealer who simply list high price inventory on Ebay for the publicity....call it a store window if you will as a lot of eyes are on Ebay and if only one or two buyers see a coin and then make their way to the dealers website outside of Ebay then they can easily justify the listing costs.</p><p><br /></p><p>#5 when you go to buy a car, a washer & dryer, a diamond ring....do you have to go into an unlit back room to purchase them? Being a good salesmen means highlighting an items strong points, putting plenty of light on the item so all details can be clearly seen, colors fully appreciated. When creating a 2D image of a 3D item, optimal lighting is a key component so saying you have to hold a coin under light to see the full color spectrum is kinda a no brainer? When you go to coin shows that have lamps clipped to the table so you can hold the coin up for inspection and get a good feel for the coin. It never ceases to amaze me when I sell on Ebay that every once in a while a buyer will win an amazing coin from me and then return it saying it's darker in hand......no duh lol How the heck can I image the coin if I am in a dark room without proper lighting? I get one chance to have the coin make the right first impression on a perspective buyer and having high quality fully lit images is the best any of us can achieve that goal. I have never purchased a coin and not looked at it under a light source.....never ;0</p><p><br /></p><p>Please do not take my post above to mean in any way that I don't believe you are entitled to your opinion, I simply hope to point out that when put together from end to end...your statements/opinions are very negative and biased against monster toned coins...which perhaps is exactly how you feel.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1014610, member: 26784"]I read through this whole thread and I can appreciate another man’s opinion as much as the next guy....we are all entitled to believe what we want but I try to be a little more responsible with my statements as I understand that my finances and what I like to collect do not match that of other collectors so before I make inaccurate and insensitive comments I try to consider all view points. #1 You made reference to neon paint and make an assumption that you could buy blast white examples and duplicate the color....if you could you would as I have heard that argument for years and to date I have never seen anyone actually do this successfully. There is a lot of money to be made so go for it! #2 You questioned the images themselves...they're worked on or the coin is held under extreme lighting. One of the reasons this coin will sell for moon money it because that most likely is not the case. Early ‘S’ mint Morgan’s are known to have amazing luster and semi-pl surfaces so when you throw neon toning on top of that you usually get a coin with extreme pop and quality of color. I have seen hundreds of monster toners like this in hand and probably even owned a few so I believe it is wise to not make assumptions on photos unless you have seen the coin in hand...but hey that's just me lol #3 You made comments about the high probability of there being shill bidding going on with the auctions. Yes you may have been joking but based on the rest of the negative comments you made it makes me wonder if you were truly joking. I believe there is still a solid market for these high level toners but now days there are far fewer collectors willing or able to drop $5k-$10k on common date toners but rest assured there are still buyers happy to spend their hard earned money for them. #4 You believe there are thousands of eBay buyers readily able to drop $5k on coins if they wanted to but obviously they don't see value in dropping that kind of money on common date toners. Unless you are Nostradamus I don't see how you could even remotely validate such a statement/opinion. I can tell you that I would pay more for toners like this than most folks on the planet as I see value in them but rough economic times make that an impossibility right now. Do not mistake a lack of buyers for there being a lack of interest because that is most likely not the case. I think percentage wise there are very few coin transactions on Ebay that are $5k and above just because of the fees alone. I know dozens of dealer who simply list high price inventory on Ebay for the publicity....call it a store window if you will as a lot of eyes are on Ebay and if only one or two buyers see a coin and then make their way to the dealers website outside of Ebay then they can easily justify the listing costs. #5 when you go to buy a car, a washer & dryer, a diamond ring....do you have to go into an unlit back room to purchase them? Being a good salesmen means highlighting an items strong points, putting plenty of light on the item so all details can be clearly seen, colors fully appreciated. When creating a 2D image of a 3D item, optimal lighting is a key component so saying you have to hold a coin under light to see the full color spectrum is kinda a no brainer? When you go to coin shows that have lamps clipped to the table so you can hold the coin up for inspection and get a good feel for the coin. It never ceases to amaze me when I sell on Ebay that every once in a while a buyer will win an amazing coin from me and then return it saying it's darker in hand......no duh lol How the heck can I image the coin if I am in a dark room without proper lighting? I get one chance to have the coin make the right first impression on a perspective buyer and having high quality fully lit images is the best any of us can achieve that goal. I have never purchased a coin and not looked at it under a light source.....never ;0 Please do not take my post above to mean in any way that I don't believe you are entitled to your opinion, I simply hope to point out that when put together from end to end...your statements/opinions are very negative and biased against monster toned coins...which perhaps is exactly how you feel.[/QUOTE]
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