Prepare to Die From Jealousy

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Gregg, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    My latest purchase.
    No, it isn't for sale at any price.

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    I find myself inspired by the recent featured article on fraudulent coins. (1)
    Outside of a couple of very basic tests I wouldn't know a counterfeit coin if you drilled a hole in it and hung it around my neck. So I'm kicking around starting with 1921 Peace Dollars - and doing some research into methods for identifying real vs. fake.

    That whole process begins with getting some real ones in different grades.
    So far, the only thing I've noticed is that these wear quite differently around the rims.
    I'll be comparing these against well worn 22's and 23's that I own - I'll post pictures at some point.

    I'd like to reduce my chances of buying fakes.


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    1: See: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1797-s-139-large-cent-suspect-examples-and-initial-research.319271/
     
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  3. Randy Abercrombie

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    I can sympathize to your fear of phony coins that have been so prevalent in our hobby. I'll just say this..... I been collecting close to fifty years. And I am probably the least numismatically educated here among the forum brethren. I have come to trust the following things when it comes to fakes.
    • If there is the slightest indifference or red flag sounding in your head. It is almost certainly a phony.
    • I have yet to see a portrait perfectly recreated on a fake. Mind you, the criminals are getting better all the time. But personally I have not seen a portrait perfectly recreated.
    • This is the most telling identifier to me... The toning on classic forgeries almost always appears perfectly "sprayed on" somehow.
    • The "sprayed look" toning in combination with the imperfect portraits immediately bring a cartoonish appearance in my mind.
    Now again, I am probably the least educated here on the forum and I am quite confident in my ability to spot a fake. Now these rules don't apply to all coins in my mind. Old coppers and gold are different. My collecting doesn't include old coppers and I buy my gold from reliable sources. But as far as the routine day in day out stuff. It doesn't take me but a second to sniff out a fake using the standards I mentioned above.
     
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  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    The 1921 HR Peace is an animal onto itself. Unlike anything else.
     
  5. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    I thought I'd start with the odd duck in the series.
    In addition to the certified coins I'd like to put together a small collection of fakes to study.
     
  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    Milli Vanilli?
     
  7. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    I've reported this post to management.
     
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  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Surely you jest...

    Hey, just blame it on the rain... ;)
     
  9. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    I've also reported this post to management.
    I received this response:

    "Citizen,
    Both Bellman and BooksB4Coins have been under review for quite some time. Thank you for submitting additional information to be included in their case files. BTW, How much for that Peace Dollar?

    -Mngmt."
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    My apologies, young fellow. I didn't realize I was speaking to a child incapable of understanding an obvious joke.
     
  11. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    What's the avatar for laughing my backside off????
     
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  12. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Oh I thought that was a joke in response!!
     
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  13. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    Reported.
     
  14. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Why I outta.........
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    You know I have two cats that would be just too glad to deal with the likes of you. :)
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    This could apply to s-o-o-o-o-o-o many different entities. I'm a "marked man" all over the place.
     
  17. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    First, they came for Kurt Bellman, but I just laughed...
     
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  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    Yup, we missed you, too. Did you at least get a tan during your vacation?
     
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  21. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    Prepare to Die From Jealousy

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