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<p>[QUOTE="Stephan77, post: 2228806, member: 74244"]Hi Doug - a few things...first to clarify a point of mine which leads directly into a point you made that I will comment on.</p><p><br /></p><p>My point originally worded: "For example the old green holders are around 15 years old now. I can basically tell the difference between say a 50 year old never dipped copper coin versus a 15 year old dipped and slabbed copper coin, having the same say 64 grade and approximately the same toning characteristics."</p><p><br /></p><p>My point reworded: For example the old green holders are around 15 years old now. I can basically tell the difference between say a 1965 minted, 50 year old, never dipped copper coin versus a 1965 minted, 15 year old dipped and slabbed copper coin, having the same say 64 grade and approximately the same toning characteristics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your point: "Now can original skin be definitively identified or recognized ? No it cannot, and the reason it cannot is because there is no difference between the toning that occurs at the beginning of a coins life, and toning that occurs 50 or 100 years later."</p><p><br /></p><p>I hear ya, and I'm be thinking about your point as your posts are highly informative and knowledgeable, but I'm not yet convinced of your point on this, alluding to some of the points in my post, especially when it comes to copper.</p><p><br /></p><p>"This is why, among what I shall call "advanced collectors" many of them highly prize the coins with what they call original skin."</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll place myself with your term of "advanced collectors" in your sentence, although I will probably never place myself in a category of "advanced knowledge" when it comes to coin collecting. I still have much to learn, and I enjoy the learning process. I just don't want the learning process to be ultra expensive as per the old saying, "Experience is a dear school" - in my case meaning the need to obtain as much information as possible in order to avoid as many bad coin purchases as possible.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stephan77, post: 2228806, member: 74244"]Hi Doug - a few things...first to clarify a point of mine which leads directly into a point you made that I will comment on. My point originally worded: "For example the old green holders are around 15 years old now. I can basically tell the difference between say a 50 year old never dipped copper coin versus a 15 year old dipped and slabbed copper coin, having the same say 64 grade and approximately the same toning characteristics." My point reworded: For example the old green holders are around 15 years old now. I can basically tell the difference between say a 1965 minted, 50 year old, never dipped copper coin versus a 1965 minted, 15 year old dipped and slabbed copper coin, having the same say 64 grade and approximately the same toning characteristics. Your point: "Now can original skin be definitively identified or recognized ? No it cannot, and the reason it cannot is because there is no difference between the toning that occurs at the beginning of a coins life, and toning that occurs 50 or 100 years later." I hear ya, and I'm be thinking about your point as your posts are highly informative and knowledgeable, but I'm not yet convinced of your point on this, alluding to some of the points in my post, especially when it comes to copper. "This is why, among what I shall call "advanced collectors" many of them highly prize the coins with what they call original skin." I'll place myself with your term of "advanced collectors" in your sentence, although I will probably never place myself in a category of "advanced knowledge" when it comes to coin collecting. I still have much to learn, and I enjoy the learning process. I just don't want the learning process to be ultra expensive as per the old saying, "Experience is a dear school" - in my case meaning the need to obtain as much information as possible in order to avoid as many bad coin purchases as possible.[/QUOTE]
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