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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Stephan77, post: 2227084, member: 74244&quot;]Thank you Doug for the continued guidance on our great hobby.</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Basically with an old holder, it can signify an undipped coin.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>I should have stated this better to mean when a coin is in an old holder, the fact that many years have passed since it was slabbed, means there can at least be an indication as to whether it was dipped or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve still got a bit to learn on this, but copper is easier to ascertain in this regard. I&#039;ve seen and handled so many copper coins over the years, I can just tell if the toning is original or dipped. For example the old green holders are around 15 years old now. I can basically tell the difference between say a 50 year old never dipped copper coin versus a 15 year old dipped and slabbed copper coin, having the same say 64 grade and approximately the same toning characteristics. It&#039;s not easy on website pics, but in hand it&#039;s really not that difficult, but of course coin doctors will always try their best to fool us.</p><p><br /></p><p>Silver is tougher to tell in this regard, but I&#039;m trying my best to get a visual feel for it, based on handling many silver coins over the years as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks again for the help![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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