Predict the grade - 1900 Lafayette $1

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  1. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    One of many I'll be submitting tomorrow.

    What do you grade it, and what do you think ANACS will grade it?

    All images are the same coin, just different types of lighting -

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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    XF Details, cleaned and retoned
     
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  4. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    I say XF 40. Mine looks similar.
     
  5. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I would agree with @ToughCOINS, although I think ANACS may give it an AU-Details grade. AU-50 Details to be more specific. ANACS likes to give numerical grades even for Details coins.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    XF/cleaned. Most excellent photogs Beefer. :)
     
  7. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Me: AU Details- Cleaned.
    ANACS: XF45 Details- Cleaned.
     
  8. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Whatever it is, I like it.
     
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    AU 50 Details - Environmental Damage

    I would give it the same grade and say this is an attractive example for a details coin.
     
  10. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Maybe could get an AU50 details at ANACS but some coins they are stricter on, and I do not have any idea on this series.
     
  11. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    *****UPDATE*****

    I got the results today.

    AU-50 - Altered Surfaces

    Now what exactly do they mean by "Altered Surfaces"? I have no definitive answer, but my guess would be they felt the toning was unnatural?

    Would this be a candidate for a quality dip or a conservation by NGC, or will this always be a details coin?
     
  12. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Nice grade, I don't know much about this stuff but I would say details due to light cleaning.


    Thanks,
    Jacob
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Kripes Kirk........when the devil ya gonna learn not to buy cleaned crap?
     
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  14. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    :( ;) :p :D

    I think I would've preferred "Cleaned" as opposed to "Altered Surfaces"
     
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  15. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I called it!!!
     
  16. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Can you send pics of the holder?
    I bet altered surfaces because it looks like it was very lightly cleaned and then retoned. So instead of saying Cleaned, Retoned, they just said altered.
     
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  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Technically cleaning can be considered a form of altering the surfaces. I am guessing that they thought the surfaces were not natural but couldn't pin down the exact reason, thus the catch-all of "altered surfaces".
     
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  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    By the way, here is what NGC says:

    "ALTERED SURFACE is a general term used to describe a coin whose surfaces are clearly not natural but whose exact treatment is uncertain. Among the deceptive processes that fall into this category is the application of pastes to either hide contact marks or to simulate Cameo frosting or Prooflike brilliance."

    https://www.ngccoin.com/pdf/details_grading_brochure.pdf
     
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  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They use weird terms sometimes I bet it’s what Soren said
     
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  20. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It looks like someone tried to smooth a scratch right behind the end of the tail on the reverse. Maybe not, put the first images give it that look. Pretty coin anyway.
     
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  21. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I will, once I get it back. It's shipping tomorrow they say.
     
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