Pre-Guess The Grade: 1861 LS Quarter

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Publius2, Jun 21, 2024.


Pre-Guess the Grade

Poll closed Jun 22, 2024.
  1. AU-55

  2. AU-58

  3. MS-60

  4. MS-62

  5. MS-63

    0 vote(s)
  6. MS-64

    0 vote(s)
  7. Details

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  1. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I am about to send this quarter off to NGC for grading. Anyone care to "pre-guess" the grade? Poll will close in 24 hours. I will post NGC grade when it comes in.

    Take a look at K10 to K11 on the obverse rim.

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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Absolutely Beautiful, would add it to my set in a heartbeat but those alligned hairline scratches on the reverse ouch...

    UNC Details Cleaned... but I honestly hope I'm wrong
  4. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Agree. biggrin.gif
  6. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

  7. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    MS details due to cleaning.
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It looks to me to be cleaned and scratched. Very nice looking but I had to go with Details. It may get slabbed as genuine but the grading fees are too high for a Details grade. You may want to reconsider.
  9. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the gut check. I happen to think this coin is on the bubble as far as being a details coin but I can certainly appreciate those that believe it's been cleaned. But I'm a little like Freud in this regard when he is alleged to have said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In this context, sometimes a scratch is just a scratch.

    Anyway, it's off to NGC with it Monday.
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Remember, we can only see a photo of the coin. Where you have the real thing in hand. Best wishes for a good grade.
  11. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 61/62...I don't see a clear sign of cleaning-just a lot of surface marks emblematic of a low unc coin (or a slider that still ends up in an unc holder because there is enough luster)
  12. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    You never know. One time a scraped spot like the one at obverse 7:30 will doom a coin (I reckon they think spot removal) and the next time they let it slide.
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  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Because of the scratches going to go with
    A/U 58
  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I voted AU-58. It’s grey areas on Ms. Liberty’s body, which could be a rub or envelope storage friction. This is the classic “cabinet friction.” The fields have lines that should be too numerous for a Mint State grade, but that hasn’t happen to some coins I’ve seen over the last five or six years.

    Given the way grading is going these days, it could be AU-58 or MS-62.
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  15. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I had it in my collection as MS-60. We'll see what NGC has to say.
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    au55 cleaned
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It looks to have somewhat glassy fields, and proofs with those tend to mark up like this. I went with it straight grades AU58. Either way, even if it details, really love it.
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Poll closed as of yesterday. I am gonna say AU58 A little to dull to be MS. I hope it doesn't get detailed.
  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I'll guess MS60.
  20. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    NGC sent it back MS-61 which I think is fair. We were a bit all over the map on this one but I think those responses were all justified.

    I will say that this coin looks much better in hand without magnification than the photos would imply. Photos seems to magnify every blemish. Then again, maybe it's just my old man eyes.

    1861 Quarter Slab Obv.jpg
  21. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    very nice sir, glad I was wrong and it came back with a clean grade
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