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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;tibor, post: 3296467, member: 73385&quot;]I was just making a guess about the goldgulden and wages. It could have</p><p>been more or less.&nbsp;&nbsp; Modern Arabic numerals were&nbsp; first used on coins in 1424 </p><p>&nbsp;in Switzerland. The Netherlands started in 1474. Germany started in 1457.</p><p>Use of&nbsp; Roman numerals stayed around through the start of the 1500&#039;s. In the</p><p>1400&#039;s most people never traveled far from home. Mostly merchants, scholars</p><p>and royalty traveled more than a few miles from their homes. Mint masters rarely traveled away from their home mint, so the adoption of the modern Arabic numerals was a slow process. From 1436 -1438&nbsp; Koln/Cologne struck goldguldens. High grade ( XF-AU ) coins do exist but I am not aware of any mint state/FDC</p><p>examples. The only other gold gulden issued by Koln is in the year 1491. Two</p><p>varieties exist, one with a medieval/bow tie &quot;4&quot; the other with the modern version. I am not aware of the availability of high grade pieces for these issues. Going back to the numbers, the style of the&nbsp; &quot;4&quot; along with the number&nbsp; &quot;5&quot; written as&nbsp; &quot;7&quot; with little nubs at top and the number &quot;7&quot; written as an upside down &quot;V&quot;. Examples can be seen in posts&nbsp; 180 and 193 of this thread. I hope I</p><p>cleared up some of the confusion I started. If any one has a question please</p><p>do not hesitate to ask. Thank you for showing so much interest in this thread.</p><p>I will finish posting the rest of my collection of Early Dated coins soon. There</p><p>are several that I am proud to be the current custodian of.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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