pre 1501 AD coins with dates

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by tibor, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    That '95-o dime is nice. Rare date to boot. Is the quarter a Proof?
    It has nice broad rims especially the reverse. Part of the rim on the
    reverse looks to have knife like edge. On the obverse the stars are
    exceptionally well struck!
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    What a stroke of luck that they left the mintmark intact on that 1895-O dime!
     
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Oh, be still my beating heart. I love toned gold like that.

    Here is a toned goldgulden I had. Unfortunately not a dated one like yours are.

    One day I hope to own a Levinson-listed early-dated gold coin.

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  5. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Active Member

    You don't see many love token Barber dimes with the mint mark still visible on the reverse. I think the quarter is one of the early circ strikes. Proof would be okay though.
     
  6. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1411-i10.jpg
    The next five pieces from Aachen have what I and others refer to
    as "mixed" dates. On each, the word the date starts with "Millesimo",
    the word used for "thousand", then "CCCC" for four hundred, and
    with this date, the word "UND" for eleven. The 1411 is one of the
    easier pieces to locate. This piece once belonged to David Cervin.
     
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  7. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1405-i8-2.jpg
    On this piece the "5" in the 1405 date is written "QUINTO".
    I didn't catch the cropping of the picture during the edits,
    but most of the word is still visible. This was the last piece
    I needed to complete my "Very Early Dated" portion of my
    collection. The 1410 and 1413 are prohibitively rare with only
    2-3 for each date known.
     
  8. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1404-i7.jpg
    The second "4" in the date 1404 is written as "QUARTO".
    When I started collecting Early Dated coins I never thought
    I would have any of the VERY early ones. I thought that they
    would be MEGA bucks. Karl Stephens had this and a 1420 on
    his price list and I bought them both. His price for the pair was
    very reasonable. If you get a chance to look thru his inventory,
    do so. Many, many nice pieces!!
     
  9. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1403-i6.jpg
    The "3" in the date, 1403, is written "TERCIO". I bought this at a
    Heritage Auction at the CICF show in 2013. I attended many of
    those shows over the years, I wish they would bring them back.
    This piece is in a NGC slab.
     
  10. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Active Member

  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Lovely facial details! What's the grade?
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Beautifull Tibor...
    Here is my 1437
    AV Tanka Shadiabad Mint dated AH 841 1437AD
    'Ala' al-Din Mahmud Shah I
    Sultan of Malwa d13ab82507ef18ce96d81db34cd07259.jpg
     
  13. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Active Member

    Very nice, is the date above the line and read right to left?
     
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  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Yes! Here is a really old dated coin, just won it in Triton XXII
    Kings of the Bosphorus
    AV Stater dated BE459 = 162AD
    obverse: King Eupator
    reverse: Emperors Marcus Aurelius/ Lucius Verus
    Three rulers on a coin!
    BE= Bosphoran Calender ONV=459 11000496.jpg
     
  15. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Active Member

  16. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1402-i5a-2.jpg
    This groschen from the Aachen mint. It is also
    in NGC plastic. Their grade: F 15. The 1402,
    1403 and 1405 are really tough in nice grade
    and rarely show up. The "2" in the date is
    written as "SECVNDO".
     
  17. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1391-ii3.jpg
    This Gros from the Schoonvorst mint. Schoonvorst-Sichem along with Aachen
    were the first to strike dated coinage. Both struck pieces in 1372. The Aachen
    piece, location unknown. Schoonvorst struck dated coinage again from 1390-
    1394. The 1391 is most available but finding a readable, clear date is a challenge.
    Schoonvorst also struck coinage in 1440-1444. Except for the 1444 these are
    extremely rare. The 1372 Schoonvorst piece is located in a museum.
     
  18. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1375-i4a.jpg
    From the Jungheit mint. This date when found, usually is
    pretty nice. The obv. with the figure Charlemagne is rather
    well preserved. This and the 1374 are two of my favorites!!
     
  19. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    1374-i3a-2.jpg
    This Groschen struck at the Jungheit mint. This piece is generally accepted
    as the first collectable Early Dated coin. It does show up at auction occasionally.
    This is another one of my favorites.


    Well, this concludes my Early Dated presentation of my collection. I have a
    few more but I'll post those after Todd works his magic. Thank you for showing
    so much interest. Thanks goes out to @talerman and @lordmarcovan for their
    insight and encouragement. Thanks goes out to @panzerman for sharing so
    many of his treasures. A very special THANK YOU goes to @HoledandCreative
    for encouraging me on this project and for sharing so many of his treasures
    from his collection.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019
  20. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    A truly remarkable collection of early dated European coins, Tibor:)
    Thank you for sharing them with us, your coins and the history behind them was very enlightening. For me, it was esp. a treat, since I visited Aachen, Koln, Julich, Mainz often. I lived in the area.
    John
     
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  21. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Active Member

    Very nice!
     
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