Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by CircCam, Dec 14, 2018.
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Don't spill wax on that Dansco!!!!!
ETA: I like your choice of scented candles. That new Poached Pear Flambe is BOMB.
Did you crack that gorgeous 1917 Type 1 for your book?
You’re damn right I did, and I’d do it again!
...To be completely honest, I probably wouldn’t. Randy bought this one that was in there first which is also a very attractive example for the type IMO.
I figured I didn’t need two, but the one you’re referring to will probably end up in plastic again before too long... I really like the reverse and don’t view it enough in the album format. Lesson learned.
You're going to submit to PCGS?
In other news, that was the only power outage I think we’ve ever been sad to have end. Had all the kids around the Christmas tree listening to Harry Potter by candlelight. Good stuff!
I don’t have plans to any time soon but eventually. I would hope the grader would be able to see the inherent beauty in that piece... calling that environmental damage would just be sad. It photos a bit splotchy but has some nice trace luster and the surfaces look nicer in hand. We’ll see.
Since we’re discussing...
I think the appearance is sexy. I go out of my way to obtain Key Mercs with that appearance, but finding any coins with such a nice even darkness like that is TOUGH.
Obviously I’m partial to that look, but I agree. I did a little “research” earlier this year and tried to create it myself on some evenly dark silver coins specifically to see if the CircCam look is easily manufactured as I had wondered about that for some time. Granted, I’m no coin doctor but the result was a total disaster and didn’t look right at all.
I’m sure it could be done in the right hands but I’m happy with the fact that at the very least it’s not something as easy to fashion naturally as it looks sometimes.
I think the "CircCam" has as much to do with how and where it circulated as much as with the coin toning from chemicals in the atmosphere. A lot of it I think comes from grime rubbed into the devices and this phenomenon continuing throughout the life of the coin, just as much as it reacting to the elements. Coins circulating in heavily blue collar areas back in the day, where lots of people likely held and spent their change with dirty, sweaty hands, I think contributed to a lot of the CircCams.
Of course, this is only a theory of mine.
I’m very interested in that phenomenon as well. I like the theory some have posed about it having to do with being in heavily coal heated environments, but it would be really interesting to know the true causes. I’ve yet to run into someone who is a subject matter expert in the science behind it but would love to if such a person exists. Perhaps @physics-fan3.14 might have a hypothesis?
It’s definitely one of those things where you like it or you don’t- for all the folks who admire the look there’s just as many who see a dirty, ugly coin with no eye appeal. It’s especially fun hearing all the nasty things dealers making offers on that look say about them!
If there's anybody on CT who could answer this, it would probably be Jason or Doug.
And I definitely agree. I like dark Silver far more than washed out grey coins, because they are the epitome of fully original. Dealers will say just about anything to trash any coin to increase their profit margin.
I’m in agreement with the dark toning coming from coal and wood heat and industrial areas. I see it a lot in coastal New England
Some dealers for sure, I’ve been lucky enough to meet some genuine and kind ones too.
I will say that the ones who weren’t so nice helped me to learn to be more careful about what I buy though as I found out pretty quick the difference in something being great for the grade or not by having them scrutinized in that situation. Always lots to learn but it’s been a fun ride so far. I just wish the coin shops didn’t attract so many shady characters as I’d love to be able to take the kids with sometime.
There are some great dealers too. The Penny Lady, Shelley Griffiths of Alhambra Coin, David Lawrence, to name a few. Not all are bad or jerks. I guess I should specify instead of making the sweeping claim that all dealers are like that.
That was a decent wind we had tonight. Ours flickered but stayed on. We usually go out quick.
That is worth one cent.
How cool is that? Christmas and coins by candlelight? I bet you are right. Candles, wood & coal burning heat and heavy tobacco smoke I bet all contribute to that circcam look that is so handsome....... The guitar I played in the clubs back in the 70’s and 80’s still reeks of tobacco and I have cleaned it a hundred times. Also sports a sexy yellow hue that I believe is tobacco smoke permanently embedded in the wood.... I do believe the smoke filled environment of previous generations gave us our circcam coins.
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