Post your Under-Graded Slabs (Official Thread)

I was a little surprised this graded MS63.
Lance.

 

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For research purposes, who graded that one?

 

PCGS.
Lance.

 

Here's a neat test for you all to determine which of the big 2 TPG's are on top of their game. The first coin is an NGC graded1938 D-S OMM Buffalo , The second is another 1938 D-S OMM Buffalo graded by NGC. Both coins are a variety. All images are posted as to the coin and variety to the grading service . GTG and Tell me what you see ???? PCGS Graded

NGC Graded

 

Here's a little clue.....
Image 1 Pcgs.....
Image 2 NGC


Two graders two different 1938 D omm's

 

I dont see much difference between the MMs Paddy. They both look like D/D/S, i am gonna guess only 1 of the 2 graders labeled it as such?
1) Pcgs looks like a 67 to my eye
2) Ngc looks like a 66 but im not a very advanced grader of Buffs (yet)

 

I am not an expert when it comes to Lincoln cents but... LOL

Okay, let me try again :-D

Grade? Both Buffalos = MS65?
NGC may have graded it 63/64 though, as they're usually tougher and that's an older slab.

While I am not a variety collector, both coins appear to be FS-511 (triple D over S MM):
https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-varieties/buffalo-nickels/1938-d-d-d-s-buffalo-5c-fs-511-1552/

Maybe one of them just called it D/S while the other company was more specific... or one of them just got it wrong. Or I am wrong.

 

They both to look to be the D/D/S variety. My guess on the grades are PCGS at a 66 and NGC at 64.

 

@Paddy54 when is the reveal?
I am not drinking Miller today, went with Michelob Light. I had a coupon

 

@heavycam.monstervam

Oh sure I could tell you let the cat out of the bag.....but that not a true learning experience . A true learning experience would be like....go to varietyvista.com and Wexler and see if you can figure it out..... I do believe honesty that coin 1 is under graded by 1 pt. Coin #2 is pretty much spot on but in hand both coins look a heck of a lot better than the images provided .
Since you used your coupon today the extra time spent doing research will mean more time to use the grading juice to help you through yet another Paddy nickel riddle.

 

Ok ok, i went to wexler and found it rather quickly. WOMM-001 Coneca OMM-001
I was wrong, its a D/D/D/S I thought the 3rd D was machine doubling, obviously not, if ALL the examples show it.
Im obviously pretty curious, about grade and what they called the variety. This was a good one! Now back to my Michelob, quite tasty!

 

So we all agree on the variety?
http://varietyvista.com/03 Buffalo Nickels/1938DOMM001.htm

What about the grades?

 

OK here's the poop!
Specimen #1 pcgs graded 65 I believe it to be a grade higher a 66 in hand I believe that this one passes hands down. As for the label pcgs calls it a D/D/S . In fact it is a D/D/D/S.
Specimen #2 ngc this grader to me has always been a tad bit tougher on grading nickels, no matter what series. They gave this coin a 65 . I can live with that grade. They also got the variety correct D/D/D/S.

For some reason pcgs is not whom you want to send in a variety coin. They are extremely picky over what they will and won't grade when it comes to varieties .
You're better off sending them into NGC or Anacs .
Now the plot thickens...... go to Wexler site and look at a D/D/D/S variety , then check out Dr. Wiles at Varietyvista.com
This is where world's collides as Wiles has a totally different variety then does Wexler on the same DDDS variety . The rpm 014 Wexler has proven that it isn't an S under the D! As Wiles has the same variety listed as so!
My question is who's correct?
Micbraun {with a N not M} did nail it first....but again one can surely see that there is a difference between a D/D/S and a D/D/D/S and a huge difference on the rpm /omm 014.
When it comes to buffalo's my money is on Wexler.

 

This here is not a D/D/S

This is the 014 rpm and I have one at Anacs now waiting on a grade.

 

@Paddy54 I recall, many moons ago......
You were trying to assemble every OMM and RPM '38D. What a daunting task that must be? Did you ever complete the set???

 

It's a work in progress .... so many coins so little time and money...
But that's why you vary the hunt..... you go out and set your sights. But if you don't find your quarry , you keep on searching other varieties.
All the time storing away any and all knowledge you can.
Sometimes you get lucky...sometimes ya don't . ....but the hunt is the fun part.....it's what keeps you going to finding the trophies you seek.

 

Here 2 more-
#1 ngc 64 #2 ngc 64pl

 

I really like that 1885-O...

 

Well, I suppose, in some quarters, I have proof of an undergraded slab here. Sorry I don't have a picture of the reverse. That's a gold CAC sticker.

 

Yea I really got over on the guy who sold it to me. It even came w tru views.