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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cmezner, post: 4723879, member: 87809&quot;][USER=103058]@PaulTudor[/USER] is right. The two carps are at 3 o&#039;clock. The images of two carps also appear in the coat of arms of coins from the Ensisheim mint. Maybe the coat of arms that you found in Wikipedia is a contemporary one? Take a look at the pictures here:</p><p><a href="https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ferdinand_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ferdinand_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor" rel="nofollow">https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ferdinand_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor</a></p><p><br /></p><p>On the picture of Ferdinand I in 1531, he has what I think are two carps hanging on his chest (it doesn&#039;t look like the collar of the Order of the Golden Fleece) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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