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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1725047, member: 19463"]Expensive coins are easier to follow when it comes to pedigree and I have few coins that dealers would bother to write up. An interesting exception was the Bavarian collection sold by CNG which caused me to write this page:</p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac16.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac16.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac16.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I got my Bavarian coins from Victor Failmezger who bought several lots and wrote up the matter for the Celator. Since Victor's name carries value added status as a book author, my coins have a multi step provenance possibly raising their value above the $10 level justified by the coin alone. </p><p>[ATTACH]268086.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Another problem tracking old cheapies is that few of them were illustrated before the age of digital photography so it is not always easy to prove that a coin is the same one sold in the big name sale. A bad example is the John Quincy Adams sale Randy quoted. Many (most!) of the President's coins were not spectacular by modern standards and were sold in lots of several coins. The seller provided little tickets for each coin but many buyers of multiple lots who saved the tickets threw them all in a box so you do not always see current sales accompanied by a ticket bearing the correct lot number. My coin:</p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac34jqa.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac34jqa.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac34jqa.html</a></p><p>came with a ticket bearing the correct lot number but it was not a grand enough coin to deserve a photo in the sale catalog so it is a matter of faith that some one did not swap out the Adams coin for another one sometime in the last 200 years. I choose to believe it is correct because the lot number matches but I could not prove it in a court of law. </p><p><br /></p><p>My two examples raise the question of added value. It would seem that John Quincy Adams would add more value to a coin than some unknown German who made his collecting supplies out of scrap paper but I consider my few Bavarian collection coins far more interesting since the evidence that accompanies them dates to when the collection was formed but the Adams sale material is from when the Massachusetts Historical Society decided they didn't need coins just because they belonged to the Adams family. If the lots came with an envelope fashioned out of White House stationary, it might be different.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1725047, member: 19463"]Expensive coins are easier to follow when it comes to pedigree and I have few coins that dealers would bother to write up. An interesting exception was the Bavarian collection sold by CNG which caused me to write this page: [URL]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac16.html[/URL] I got my Bavarian coins from Victor Failmezger who bought several lots and wrote up the matter for the Celator. Since Victor's name carries value added status as a book author, my coins have a multi step provenance possibly raising their value above the $10 level justified by the coin alone. [ATTACH]268086.vB[/ATTACH] Another problem tracking old cheapies is that few of them were illustrated before the age of digital photography so it is not always easy to prove that a coin is the same one sold in the big name sale. A bad example is the John Quincy Adams sale Randy quoted. Many (most!) of the President's coins were not spectacular by modern standards and were sold in lots of several coins. The seller provided little tickets for each coin but many buyers of multiple lots who saved the tickets threw them all in a box so you do not always see current sales accompanied by a ticket bearing the correct lot number. My coin: [URL]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac34jqa.html[/URL] came with a ticket bearing the correct lot number but it was not a grand enough coin to deserve a photo in the sale catalog so it is a matter of faith that some one did not swap out the Adams coin for another one sometime in the last 200 years. I choose to believe it is correct because the lot number matches but I could not prove it in a court of law. My two examples raise the question of added value. It would seem that John Quincy Adams would add more value to a coin than some unknown German who made his collecting supplies out of scrap paper but I consider my few Bavarian collection coins far more interesting since the evidence that accompanies them dates to when the collection was formed but the Adams sale material is from when the Massachusetts Historical Society decided they didn't need coins just because they belonged to the Adams family. If the lots came with an envelope fashioned out of White House stationary, it might be different.[/QUOTE]
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