Post your pedigreed coins

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  1. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    A few months ago, I posted a thread about how to describe a pedigree. Did anyone actually start using those guidelines? If so, or if you want to try, post one of your pedigreed coins here. I'll share with you my most extensive provenance:
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    THESSALY, The Oitaioi.
    Circa 167-146 BC.
    AR Hemidrachm (15mm, 2.30 g, 1h)
    Lion’s head left, spear in its jaws
    OITAI downward to right, ΩN downward to left, Herakles standing facing, holding club in both hands
    Valassiadis 9; BCD Thessaly II 494 (same obverse die)

    Ex BCD Collection (Classical Numismatic Group Electronic Auction 290), lot 57; Peus 384 (2 November 2005), lot 199; Vinchon (20 May 1959), lot 483; M. Ratto 11 (16 May 1935), lot 239; R. Ratto (4 April 1927), lot 1023; Naville-Ars Classica V (18 June 1923), lot 1764 ​
     
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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I hope you don't mind this photo. It is a US no-stars dime from Eliasberg. :smile

    I don't have any ancient coins to contribute.
     

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  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Despite it's youthful, mirror like surfaces and plastic coffin, that's still a nice coin. ;) Care to describe the sale pedigree?
     
  5. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I paid attention to your earlier thread. Did I do this one correctly?

    ATTICA, Athens,
    AR Tetradrachm. (Owl)
    449-413 B.C.


    17.1 grams, 23-25 mm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Athena facing
    rt in crested ornamented helmet
    Rev: Owl standing right, head facing;
    olive sprig & crescent to left and
    AΘΕ to right all in incuse square.
    Grade: Well-defined XF, fairly well
    centered and complete.
    Other: Good silver 7.5 mm thick.
    Sear 2526; SNG Cop 31; BMC 11.62.
    Huge quantity struck to pay for the
    rebuilding of the Athenian temples.
    Ex Mark Bir Estate (Daniel Sedwick
    #13, April 2011), lot 1313.
     

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  6. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Way to go! The pound sign before the sale number is unnecessary, though. Good job.
     
  7. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Thrace, Byzantion AR Tetradrachm
    (387-339 BC)
    Obv.: Heifer standing left on dolphin; monogram above and under raised leg.
    Rev.: Granular quadripartite incuse square.
    Schönert-Geiss 688 (this coin); SNG BM Black Sea 4 var. (monogram).

    Ex Chris Connell Collection (VAuctions 238), lot 7; George Bauer Collection (Glendining's, 23 January 1963), lot 1010; Mathey Collection (Feuardent, 9 June 1913), lot 146.


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  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I don't have many coins with any known provenance.
    This is one of the few that I have. Not that extensive but having gone through the hands of two specialists in the field.

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    Probus, Billon tetradrachm
    Obv:– A K M AVP PROBOC CEB, Laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– None, Dikaiosyne (Aequitas) seated left, holding scales and cornucopia
    Minted in Alexandria Egypt. LE in left field. Year 5. A.D. 279-280
    Milne 4594. Emmett 3980(5) R4. Curtis 1845. BMC -.

    Ex-Keith Emmett Collection (private sale); Olympus #5 catalogue (December 1982); Col. James W. Curtis Collection.

    Keith Emmett - Author of "Alexandrian Coins" (Emmett)
    Col. James W. Curtis - Author of "Tetradrachms of Roman Egypt" (Curtis)

    Described by Col. Curtis as "Very Rare" on his 2x2 coin holder, which still accompanies the coin.

    Regards,
    Martin
     
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  9. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I only have the date purchased & price recorded. I cannot remember the auction house without going through a bunch of receipts. If it were Teletrade Auction 999 lot #2560 on June, 11, 2008 then I suspect the pedigree would be something simple like this:

    Ex Eliasberg Estate, (Teletrade Auction #999, June 11, 2008), lot 2560.
     
  10. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I bet you could chase down a pedigree before 2008, if you had access to the old catalogues. It had to have gone somewhere between Eliasberg and Teletrade!
     
  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have a few with a short provenance, and I'm unsure how to dig up any more information/history. However, here is one:

    ARCADIA MEGALOPOLIS AR Triobol
    OBV: Laureate head of Zeus left
    REV: Pan seated left, holding lagobolon; eagle on knee, monogram before, D/L behind
    Stuck at Megalopolis, 182-168 BC
    2.160g, 14mm
    Dengate 13
    Ex Superior, 30 May 1995, lot 7462 (Lewis Egnew Collection)
    Arcadia Megalopolis OBV.jpg Arcadia Megalopolis REV.jpg
     
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  12. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Ex Lewis L. Egnew Collection (Superior, 30 May 1995), lot 7462.

    Your first step in researching a pedigree should be to search for recent auction appearances. This is best done on CoinArchives Pro, as it has many more auctions represented than the free ACSearch. Next, check in major sales of this material. I would bet anything your coin is from the BCD Collection, but definitely from one of the many unillustrated group lots or private sales. Do you have a small, round ticket with it?
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    No, I didn't receive it from the seller, HJB.
     
  14. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Private sale, or buy/bid?
     
  15. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    I would like to post three.

    1. i only have three..
    2. they are a set..
    3. its my Birthday..;)

    Constantine l The Great..post AD. 337..
    Ob. Divo Constantino P, veiled bust right..
    Rev. Aeterna Pietas, Emperor standing left,
    holding globe and spear..
    Mint Trier
    16mm x 1.4g.
    Rairty 7

    Ex. sternberg auction 9/1992
    Ex. Failmezger collection
    current Eng
     

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  16. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Maximianus ..317-318..AD.

    Ob. Divo Maximiano, laureate veiled bust right..
    Rev. Veiled emperor seated left..
    Mint Siscia..
    16mm x 1.2g.
    Rarity 6

    Ex. Malloy auction 1992
    Ex. Failmezger collection
    current Eng
     

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  17. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    I may have done you one better:

    I believe this is the same coin, the only 1837 10C Small Date listed in Eliasberg's retired registry set. It has an estimated grade of AU58 although it is listed here as an AU55: http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/Major_collections/Eliasberg.htm

    "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Edouard Frossard's New Jersey Collection sales, March 8-9, 1898; J.M. Clapp, Clapp estate, 1942 to Louis Eliasberg, Sr.; Louis Eliasberg Sale, May 20-22, 1996, Bowers and Merena;"[/FONT]

    It would be worth finding a catalog to match the plates if they have it photographed but I think you've got a good shot at an 1898 provenance.
     
  18. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Claudius ll Gothicus ..317- 318..AD..

    Ob. Clavdivs ll Gothicvs, laureate veiled bust right.
    Rev. Veiled Emperor seated left on curule chair..
    Mint..Thessalonica
    16mm x 1.2g..
    Rarity 5

    Ex. French hoard.. 7/1993
    Ex. Failmezger collection..
    current Eng..
     

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  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Private sale
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sicily, Syracuse. Hieron I AR Tetradrachm

    478-466 BC
    Struck circa 478-475 BC
    Diameter: 24 mm
    Weight: 16.90 grams
    Obverse: Charioteer driving quadriga right; above, Nike flying right, crowning horses
    Reverse: Diademed head of Arethusa right; four dolphins around
    Reference: Boehringer series IXa, 190 (V86/R130); SNG ANS –; Randazzo 356 (same dies)
    Other: 2h, Near VF, toned, test cut on reverse
    From the Robert and Julius Diez Collection, Ex Gustav Philipsen Collection (Part I, J. Hirsch XV, 28 May 1906), lot 1132
    Triton XVI (Gitbud & Naumann, CNG Electronic Auction 294, Item #84), Jan/16/2013


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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sicily, Syracuse Æ Hemidrachm
    Timoleon and the Third Democracy

    344-317 BC
    Timoleontic Symmachy coinage. 1st series, circa 344-339/8 BC
    Diameter: 24 mm
    Weight: 16.94 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Zeus Eleutherios right
    Reverse: Upright thunderbolt; to right, eagle standing right
    Reference: Castrizio series I, 1γ; CNS 72; SNG ANS 477-88
    Other: 9h, Good VF, red-brown patina, a few areas of roughness, some cleaning marks
    From the Robert and Julius Diez Collection,

    => Ex Gustav Philipsen Collection (Part I, J. Hirsch XV, 28 May 1906), lot 1227
    Triton XVI (Gitbud & Naumann, CNG Electronic Auction 294, Item #119), Jan/16/2013



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