Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Post your nickels
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2284546, member: 15309"]Ok, first things first. If you want to hide the grade of a PCGS coin, you must hide the grade and the numbers over the bar code. The first four numbers (4046) relate to the type of coin and the two numbers after the period (66) are the grade of the coin. Additionally, anyone can take the serial number (numbers after /) and do a certification lookup on the PCGS site and find the grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now about the actual coin. This coin is overgraded, there simply is no way to justify an MS66 grade and most people wouldn't feel comfortable with this coin in an MS65 slab. The problem is that both PCGS and NGC allow for planchet flaws on Jefferson Nickels without detrimentally affecting the grade. Remnant planchet flaws are common on Jefferson's cheek, jaw, and upper coat collar. On this coin there are a mixture of remnant planchet flaws and marks. There is a very large mark on Jeff's jaw which can't possibly be a planchet flaw. Then there is a series of marks that appear to be post mint but could be planchet flaws. And finally there are is some light planchet roughness on both jaw line and upper coat collar. </p><p><br /></p><p>My guess is that the grader who probably isn't going to spend much time grading a 1952 Jefferson Nickel, saw the obverse, figured it was all planchet roughness, missed the huge mark on Jeff's jaw, and graded it MS66. Other than that area of the coin, it does qualify for MS66. The mushiness of the strike is typical for 1952 as are planchet flaws. The small nick in the steps might bother the full step Jeff collector but it is not enough to drop it from the ranks of MS66 as long as there are not too many other marks. On the positive side, the coin seems to have good luster for a 1952 and the toning and eye appeal are outstanding for this date/mm. </p><p><br /></p><p>In case some of you are unclear about what I am referring to when I said remnant planchet roughness, please look at my 1952 Jefferson Nickel NGC MS67. There are no major marks on the coin but the planchet roughness is very evident on the jaw and coat collar. It is very important to understand that neither PCGS or NGC penalizes the grade of a Jefferson Nickel for this roughness.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Jefferson%20Nickels/JeffersonNickel1952NGCMS67-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>So while I agree with you Tom Jefferson that your coin is egregiously overgraded, my question for you is why did you buy the coin if you knew it was overgraded?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2284546, member: 15309"]Ok, first things first. If you want to hide the grade of a PCGS coin, you must hide the grade and the numbers over the bar code. The first four numbers (4046) relate to the type of coin and the two numbers after the period (66) are the grade of the coin. Additionally, anyone can take the serial number (numbers after /) and do a certification lookup on the PCGS site and find the grade. Now about the actual coin. This coin is overgraded, there simply is no way to justify an MS66 grade and most people wouldn't feel comfortable with this coin in an MS65 slab. The problem is that both PCGS and NGC allow for planchet flaws on Jefferson Nickels without detrimentally affecting the grade. Remnant planchet flaws are common on Jefferson's cheek, jaw, and upper coat collar. On this coin there are a mixture of remnant planchet flaws and marks. There is a very large mark on Jeff's jaw which can't possibly be a planchet flaw. Then there is a series of marks that appear to be post mint but could be planchet flaws. And finally there are is some light planchet roughness on both jaw line and upper coat collar. My guess is that the grader who probably isn't going to spend much time grading a 1952 Jefferson Nickel, saw the obverse, figured it was all planchet roughness, missed the huge mark on Jeff's jaw, and graded it MS66. Other than that area of the coin, it does qualify for MS66. The mushiness of the strike is typical for 1952 as are planchet flaws. The small nick in the steps might bother the full step Jeff collector but it is not enough to drop it from the ranks of MS66 as long as there are not too many other marks. On the positive side, the coin seems to have good luster for a 1952 and the toning and eye appeal are outstanding for this date/mm. In case some of you are unclear about what I am referring to when I said remnant planchet roughness, please look at my 1952 Jefferson Nickel NGC MS67. There are no major marks on the coin but the planchet roughness is very evident on the jaw and coat collar. It is very important to understand that neither PCGS or NGC penalizes the grade of a Jefferson Nickel for this roughness. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Jefferson%20Nickels/JeffersonNickel1952NGCMS67-1.jpg[/IMG] So while I agree with you Tom Jefferson that your coin is egregiously overgraded, my question for you is why did you buy the coin if you knew it was overgraded?[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Post your nickels
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...