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<p>[QUOTE="Rick Stachowski, post: 2232060, member: 42872"]I just received this page to check the date with, it also includes makers</p><p><br /></p><p>1943 Mintage: 3,109,583 Mint-reported Obverse/Reverse Dies: 168/118</p><p>For 1943, the ‘4’ and ‘3’ vary in both horizontal and vertical position in respect to each other and to a fixed ‘19’.</p><p>The ‘Flat-back 9’ continues.</p><p>Starting in 1943, approximately half of the dies were chrome plated to increase die life. The appearance of the coins changed from having a satiny finish to a more polished appearance for those from the chrome-plated dies. The chrome-plating in early years had a tendency to peel, leaving a ‘mortar-set’ or shelf on the coins, which can be found on Obverses and/or Reverses.</p><p>1943 was also the first year of extensive Reverse Die refurbishment, with over twenty Reverse dies with date digit doubling (re-punched or double-punched).</p><p>Most coins with a double-punched date digit, also exhibit tool (file) marks, some quite heavy, resulting from clean-up performed on dies before use.</p><p>Reverse Major Die Varieties.</p><p>Var Zoell Charlton Date Variety and Description</p><p>J444a R3E3H SPA: High 3</p><p>J444b R2L1E SPA: Low 3</p><p>J444c 4M/47 R0E1E SPA: Narrow Date</p><p>J444c1 68/186 F1E0H SPA: Another Narrow Date</p><p>J444d 4M/47 68/186 R3E2H SPA: Wide Date</p><p>J444d1 F2L3E SPA: Another Wide Date</p><p>R444a 4M/47 R2E1H RPD: 3/3 top loop of 3. Later die states</p><p>exhibit FL444s.</p><p>R444a1 61/371m R2E3H RPD: 3/3 top of top loop of 3</p><p>R444a2 68/304m F1E1H RPD: 3/3 top of top loop of 3</p><p>R444a3 61/374b R1E0H RPD: 3/3 Similar to R444a2, tip of 3 close to 4</p><p>R444a4 R2E1H RPD: 3/3 at top left of 3</p><p>R444b 4M/47 68/302t F2L1H RPD: 3/3 inside top loop of 3</p><p>R444b1 61/369m R2H1H RPD: 3/3 inside top loop of 3</p><p>Heavy Tool-marks (file) evident on die.</p><p>R444c 4M/47 68/302m R2E2H RPD: 3/3 inside top and bottom loops of 3. Later</p><p>Die states have the Clash Marks filed out.</p><p>R444d 4M/47 68/303b R1L1H RPD: 3/3 right of top loop of 3. Later die</p><p>states have Clash Marks in crown filed out.</p><p>R444d1 68/304t R0E1H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3</p><p>R444d2 61/373t F2E2H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 – Flat-back 9</p><p>R444d3 68/305t F3L2H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3</p><p>Heavy Tool-marks (file) evident on die.</p><p>R444d4 68/305m R2L2H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 Later die states</p><p>exhibit F444n/F444o</p><p>R444d5 68/302b R2E3H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3</p><p>Die also exhibits peeled chrome plating.</p><p>R444d6 61/374m R1E1H RPD: 3/3 right top loop 3</p><p>R444d7 R1E1H RPD: 3/3 right of top loop of 3</p><p>Die deterioration of date, but the double</p><p>punch image is clean</p><p>R444d8 R1E1H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3. Die chip on top 3</p><p>R444e 4M/47 68/303m R2E2H RPD: 3/3/3 inside and outside of top loop of 3</p><p>R444g F1E1H RPD: 3/3 right of top/bottom loops of 3. Slight</p><p>4/4 right of 4. Tool-marks (file) evident.</p><p>R444h 68/301 R1L1E RPD: 3/3 inside top / outside bottom loops of 3</p><p>R444j 68/303t R2L1H RPD: 3/3 left/right top loop, right bottom loop</p><p>R444k R2E2E RPD: 4/4 to top right of 4.</p><p>R444m F2E2H RPD: 3/3 right of top loop, left of top left tip[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Rick Stachowski, post: 2232060, member: 42872"]I just received this page to check the date with, it also includes makers 1943 Mintage: 3,109,583 Mint-reported Obverse/Reverse Dies: 168/118 For 1943, the ‘4’ and ‘3’ vary in both horizontal and vertical position in respect to each other and to a fixed ‘19’. The ‘Flat-back 9’ continues. Starting in 1943, approximately half of the dies were chrome plated to increase die life. The appearance of the coins changed from having a satiny finish to a more polished appearance for those from the chrome-plated dies. The chrome-plating in early years had a tendency to peel, leaving a ‘mortar-set’ or shelf on the coins, which can be found on Obverses and/or Reverses. 1943 was also the first year of extensive Reverse Die refurbishment, with over twenty Reverse dies with date digit doubling (re-punched or double-punched). Most coins with a double-punched date digit, also exhibit tool (file) marks, some quite heavy, resulting from clean-up performed on dies before use. Reverse Major Die Varieties. Var Zoell Charlton Date Variety and Description J444a R3E3H SPA: High 3 J444b R2L1E SPA: Low 3 J444c 4M/47 R0E1E SPA: Narrow Date J444c1 68/186 F1E0H SPA: Another Narrow Date J444d 4M/47 68/186 R3E2H SPA: Wide Date J444d1 F2L3E SPA: Another Wide Date R444a 4M/47 R2E1H RPD: 3/3 top loop of 3. Later die states exhibit FL444s. R444a1 61/371m R2E3H RPD: 3/3 top of top loop of 3 R444a2 68/304m F1E1H RPD: 3/3 top of top loop of 3 R444a3 61/374b R1E0H RPD: 3/3 Similar to R444a2, tip of 3 close to 4 R444a4 R2E1H RPD: 3/3 at top left of 3 R444b 4M/47 68/302t F2L1H RPD: 3/3 inside top loop of 3 R444b1 61/369m R2H1H RPD: 3/3 inside top loop of 3 Heavy Tool-marks (file) evident on die. R444c 4M/47 68/302m R2E2H RPD: 3/3 inside top and bottom loops of 3. Later Die states have the Clash Marks filed out. R444d 4M/47 68/303b R1L1H RPD: 3/3 right of top loop of 3. Later die states have Clash Marks in crown filed out. R444d1 68/304t R0E1H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 R444d2 61/373t F2E2H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 – Flat-back 9 R444d3 68/305t F3L2H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 Heavy Tool-marks (file) evident on die. R444d4 68/305m R2L2H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 Later die states exhibit F444n/F444o R444d5 68/302b R2E3H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3 Die also exhibits peeled chrome plating. R444d6 61/374m R1E1H RPD: 3/3 right top loop 3 R444d7 R1E1H RPD: 3/3 right of top loop of 3 Die deterioration of date, but the double punch image is clean R444d8 R1E1H RPD: 3/3 right top loop of 3. Die chip on top 3 R444e 4M/47 68/303m R2E2H RPD: 3/3/3 inside and outside of top loop of 3 R444g F1E1H RPD: 3/3 right of top/bottom loops of 3. Slight 4/4 right of 4. Tool-marks (file) evident. R444h 68/301 R1L1E RPD: 3/3 inside top / outside bottom loops of 3 R444j 68/303t R2L1H RPD: 3/3 left/right top loop, right bottom loop R444k R2E2E RPD: 4/4 to top right of 4. R444m F2E2H RPD: 3/3 right of top loop, left of top left tip[/QUOTE]
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