Post Your New Canadian Acquisitions

JJ your around more than Bill. Plus as Good to!

 

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well, I'm around a lot that's true, but nowhere near Bill in his expertise;

 

Well we have no scale to gauge expertise JJ.
We just know that your answers are some of the Best!!!!

 

Nope, but I became obsessed with Canadian Large Cents when I found a few in an old wallet of my Dad's (he died when I was little). I was already a coin nerd anyway. Once I was employed and had some money, I decided to finish the collection. It's merely a coincidence that my son is now in grad school in Vancouver. How a-boat that!

 

To me, the bumps on the 9's point, the horn to the left, and the doubled upper right edge on this cent look exactly like the Charlton photo:

 

... and this 1927 British halfpenny counts as Canadian, because my son's friend found it on a Vancouver beach.

 

Your first coin is a 9/8. There were 13 different reverse dies that had a larger/rounder font 9 handpunched in over the initial 8 into the working die. The initial order for Canada was 10 million coins and they started late in '58. When the mint saw how fast the Reverse working dies were breaking, and with the Royal Mint in London was using the same presses & machinery that they used on the Brit half-penny (same dia) they made a quick decision. The Canadian cents were bronze, harder than the copper brit coins, and they were 1/3 thinner which led to great stresses on the dies. For all of the remaining coins to be dated 1859 (maybe 7-8 million left on the orig order), they ground off the last digit 8 from the hub (the hub is what is pressed into the working die blanks to make the working dies). Once they completed all the working dies (now incuse/incised with just 185), they had to hand -punch in the final 9 into the die. To do this required 2-4 whacks with the hammer and punch with a hardening of the punch and annealing of the die blank between each whack. It could have been hours or days or weeks between the whacks so they never lined up perfectly with the last whacks. For this reason, the 1859's are absolutely filled with repunched 9's that are all over the place... high, low, left, right or tilted either direction from each of the 2-4 hand-whacked punch attempts.

You second coin is one of those. It could be the one that has been named "triple-punch 9" in Charlton & trends or it could be just a different '59 that has been triple punched. Check to see if your coin has a die crack from leaf 11 tip to the denticle(leaf 11 is just to the left and slightly lower than the 1 in the date. Then see if you have a large D/C between Victoria and Dei. Your scan and lack of the full reverse (you have to know markers to properly ID) prevents me from saying yes or no. Good luck

 

Vancouver, eh? ... UBC, that's where I got my BaSC (small world)

=> Good luck with your Canadian collection!

 

I've got it for 7 $ 50 cents (USA $, not Canadian) today. Is it a good price and what is the grade?

 

One of the smallest coins I have.

 

My son is in grad Environmental Resources at UBC rival Simon Fraser... though he might finish his PhD at UBC. I think he's waiting till the city builds that subway to the UBC campus!

 

Wow, thanx for all the info, Bill! Looks like I found the expert.

 

Thanx for all the info, Bill! Yep, both of the D/Cs are there, as you specify. I'll try to take a snap of each in my "copious free time."

 

BTW: I very seldom drop in to the threads titled "Post your latest Canadian ..." I always thought that was just a place to post what someone had in their collections and already knew what they had. I always pop in for threads that deal with a certain date where someone needs something answered. If you have questions that you want answered, just put the date and Cent in the title and I'll answer them. Going through 60+ pages of posts is overkill.

 

jlesliec: OK, you have a triple-punched (TP)#1 1859. It is a very scarce coin and currently Trends for $450 Cdn in VF-20. It's $350 in F-12 and $800 in XF-40

Siberian: Check and see if your '67 is .800 or .500 silver. Below MS-62, it's bullion value so, if you paid $7.50, it was too much. I can't grade a coin with a scan and a computer screen. Sorry.

 

Just picked up a couple cool Canadian coins:

1887 10 Cents



1872 H 25 Cents
I believe this is the Large 2? I realize all the PMD this coin has (looks like a detector find IMO) but there is a pretty cool lamination peel on the reverse to the right of the date.

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Bill We welcome your comments and wish would like to stop by or add email selection of thread. I don't think there to many die variety on first 55 pages unless we missed them.
I'm sure folks would mind re posting anything they think you can help with.

 

Just Kind
One member sent me some needed dates.

 

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https://www.cointalk.com/threads/post-your-new-old-canadian-coins.258054/
For all our New posts

 

Oh yeah, well 1854 Upper Canada halfpenny bank token...