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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 8259727, member: 75937"]There is disagreement about the identity of the small reverse figure in Roma's hand among the standard references. Cohen, RIC, MIR, and Sear identify it as Victory; BMCRE and Dinsdale as the palladium; RSC (Seaby) as palladium (or Victory).</p><p><br /></p><p>I personally take it as a Victoriola facing left. There is nothing that looks like a spear in its hands to suggest the palladium. Moreover, the palladium is an accoutrement of Vesta. Rather, I see her holding something in her arms (a wreath?) which face left, with wings on her back (right side). But, like a Rorschach test, that's just what I see. It could be her wings on the left and the wreath on the right. Not HD enough! </p><p><br /></p><p>Similarly, there is disagreement about the spear vs. scepter. Cohen ("haste"; which I take as referring to the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=hasta%20pura" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=hasta%20pura" rel="nofollow"><i>hasta pura</i></a>, typically referred to as a "scepter" in numismatic descriptions) and MIR identify it as a scepter; RIC, BMCRE, RSC, Sear, and Dinsdale as a spear. Roma is typically depicted as holding a spear, so I'm going with that, but it's not clear.</p><p><br /></p><p>This denarius of Trajan might be taken as a prototype for the iconography. It clearly depicts a Victoriola (facing right) and spear.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/136/E/6/EJa95MmwRTt87WkqA5n43NjroB2JYB.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 8259727, member: 75937"]There is disagreement about the identity of the small reverse figure in Roma's hand among the standard references. Cohen, RIC, MIR, and Sear identify it as Victory; BMCRE and Dinsdale as the palladium; RSC (Seaby) as palladium (or Victory). I personally take it as a Victoriola facing left. There is nothing that looks like a spear in its hands to suggest the palladium. Moreover, the palladium is an accoutrement of Vesta. Rather, I see her holding something in her arms (a wreath?) which face left, with wings on her back (right side). But, like a Rorschach test, that's just what I see. It could be her wings on the left and the wreath on the right. Not HD enough! Similarly, there is disagreement about the spear vs. scepter. Cohen ("haste"; which I take as referring to the [URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=hasta%20pura'][I]hasta pura[/I][/URL], typically referred to as a "scepter" in numismatic descriptions) and MIR identify it as a scepter; RIC, BMCRE, RSC, Sear, and Dinsdale as a spear. Roma is typically depicted as holding a spear, so I'm going with that, but it's not clear. This denarius of Trajan might be taken as a prototype for the iconography. It clearly depicts a Victoriola (facing right) and spear. [IMG]https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/136/E/6/EJa95MmwRTt87WkqA5n43NjroB2JYB.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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