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<p>[QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1513367, member: 32795"]<span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Hi,</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">First, the three coins listed in your chart (65 - 67) are for business strikes not SMS. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Second, the SMS Kennedy half dollars for 1965 - 1967 are nothing like the 1998-S Mattie. I realize that PCGS tries to lump the 1965-67 SMS, 1998-S Mattie and the 2005 - 2010 Satin Finish coins all together but to me each class is different.</font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">The 1965 – 1967 SMS coins are neither proofs nor business strikes, just a hybrid. </font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">The 1998-S Mattie, right now I’m sort of agreeing with NGC and considering them as a type III proof for that year (Type I would be the clad proof for that year and the Type II would be the silver proof). The 1998-S Mattie is similar to the Mattie Proofs the US Mint produced back in the early 1900’s. </font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">The 2005 – 2010 satin finish coins were issued in the given years uncirculated sets. If they were SMS then the Mint would have labeled them as such and not just “Uncirculated Sets”. To me, I want both business strikes and satin finish examples in my basic set and I consider them Type I and Type II coins for these years.</font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Now getting back to the 1998-S Mattie, is it under valued, probably yes. Population wise it is the “Key” coin for the basic series with a population of just over 64,000. But unless someone screwed up, the condition of all of the 1998-S Matties will me MS67 or better with probably over 1000 grading a perfect MS70 just at PCGS and NGC. A MS70 example from PCGS used to trade for around $1000 a number of years ago, now it trades for less then half. Will it ever get back to the $1000 range, maybe over time, but right now the supply of them with the limited demand is keeping the price down.</font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">The chart you showed of the business strike 1965 – 1967, you have to remember are low population coins in high grade. The 1966, PCGS only has graded four coins MS67 with just one better at MS68 (Conditional Rarity).</font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Caleb </font></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1513367, member: 32795"][COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]Hi, First, the three coins listed in your chart (65 - 67) are for business strikes not SMS. Second, the SMS Kennedy half dollars for 1965 - 1967 are nothing like the 1998-S Mattie. I realize that PCGS tries to lump the 1965-67 SMS, 1998-S Mattie and the 2005 - 2010 Satin Finish coins all together but to me each class is different.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]The 1965 – 1967 SMS coins are neither proofs nor business strikes, just a hybrid. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]The 1998-S Mattie, right now I’m sort of agreeing with NGC and considering them as a type III proof for that year (Type I would be the clad proof for that year and the Type II would be the silver proof). The 1998-S Mattie is similar to the Mattie Proofs the US Mint produced back in the early 1900’s. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]The 2005 – 2010 satin finish coins were issued in the given years uncirculated sets. If they were SMS then the Mint would have labeled them as such and not just “Uncirculated Sets”. To me, I want both business strikes and satin finish examples in my basic set and I consider them Type I and Type II coins for these years.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]Now getting back to the 1998-S Mattie, is it under valued, probably yes. Population wise it is the “Key” coin for the basic series with a population of just over 64,000. But unless someone screwed up, the condition of all of the 1998-S Matties will me MS67 or better with probably over 1000 grading a perfect MS70 just at PCGS and NGC. A MS70 example from PCGS used to trade for around $1000 a number of years ago, now it trades for less then half. Will it ever get back to the $1000 range, maybe over time, but right now the supply of them with the limited demand is keeping the price down.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]The chart you showed of the business strike 1965 – 1967, you have to remember are low population coins in high grade. The 1966, PCGS only has graded four coins MS67 with just one better at MS68 (Conditional Rarity).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]Caleb [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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