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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;talkcoin, post: 1591636, member: 38842&quot;]I am very glad that they shipped to your Homeland of Germany. It sounds like you know quite a bit about your Country&#039;s &amp; European coins (non-US coinage). I understand that you are not alone in your opinions of PCGS over-grading this FREE promo. However, respectfully, I don&#039;t know how coin grading standards work overseas, but here in the US, it would/SHOULD be physically impossible for any coinage that comes directly from the US Mint (bags, rolls, or mint-sets) to be graded AU58 or AU anything. Example: if a coin were minted from the US Mint and then thrown on the ground at the US Mint and picked up and swallowed by a US Mint employee; then regurgitated out of the stomach of the US Mint employee back onto the ground, then picked up and stuck under the armpit of the US Mint employee. Then that same coin (that never left the US Mint), were put into a US Mint bag or roll or mint-set.... It would still be mint state, probably MS60, but non-the-less, if it was never circulated outside of where it was struck; it could/SHOULD never be AU. Another example: you go to a grocery store and get back in your change, a coin that looks perfect to you, like MS69 perfect, it is still AU, probably AU58. I also understand it is near impossible for myself or any TPG to see it that way, but technically; it SHOULD be that way. Also, like I stated above; respectively, here in the US, AU58 is THE prime example (with the utmost eye-appeal and luster) of a coin that has been lightly circulated, hence, if it were heavily bag-marked or just plain ugly, but still AU, it would NEVER receive a grade of AU58. This is why, IMO, that AU58 US coin collections for 19th century US coinage is so sought after and respected far above that same collection being MS60 or MS61. MS is exactly what it states, the state the coin was in as it left the mint, regardless of how banged up or perfectly struck it was. I hope I didn&#039;t offend you or anyone else, but like I said, I don&#039;t know how it works in Germany/Europe. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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